The Garden of Forking Paths

[luka]

we need shorter names for you two. constant escape, you are now Stan. i can't keep typing constant escape every time. there's too many letters. suspended reason i havent got one for you yet.

 

[luka]

suspended reason you can be Gus.

 

[shiels]

we need shorter names for you two. constant escape, you are now Stan. i can't keep typing constant escape every time. there's too many letters. suspended reason i havent got one for you yet.

Cosign. Always having to type out two words. Who do they think they are

 

[luka]

Sus isn't a name that's why he's going to be Gus.

 

[shiels]

Mark Fisher:

[Depressive ontology] is, after all and above all, a theory about the world, about life. [...] Depression[‘s]… difference from mere sadness consists in its claims to have uncovered The (final unvarnished) Truths about life and desire… there’s no point, everything is a sham. [...] A student of mine wrote in an essay recently that they sympathise with Schopenhauer when their football team loses. But the true Schopenhauerian moments are those in which you achieve your goals, perhaps realise your long-cherished heart’s desire—and feel cheated, empty, no, more—or is it less?—than empty, voided. Joy Division always sounded as if they had experienced one too many of those desolating voidings, so that they could no longer be lured back onto the merry-go-round. They knew that satiation wasn’t succeeded by tristesse, it was itself, immediately, tristesse. [D]epressive ontology is dangerously seductive because, as the zombie twin of Spinozist dispassionate disengagement, it is half true. As the depressive withdraws from the vacant confections of the Lifeworld, he unwittingly finds himself in concordance with the human condition so painstakingly diagrammed by Spinoza: he sees himself as a serial consumer of empty simulations, a junky hooked on every kind of deadening high, a meat puppet of the passions. The depressive cannot even lay claim to the comforts that a paranoiac can enjoy, since he cannot believe that the strings are being pulled by any One. No flow, no connectivity in the depressive’s nervous system. It is a ‘dry brain’ (Eliot) condition.

The drake essay makes the same point very well

 

[Mr. Tea]

@suspendedreason @Mr. Tea any thoughts on Gibbs free energy? What exactly does it mean? Feel free to take a philosophic approach, which is my usually tactic for breaking into this stuff.

I wish I had a good answer to this, but it's A) thermodynamics, which was never my strong suit, and B) verging on chemistry, which isn't even a proper science.

 

[luka]

@luka heres a deleuze podcast for you: Deleuze and Guattari Quarantine Club - The Garden of Forking Paths. As if the literature wasn't tricky enough, here's a bunch of guys throwing around Deleuzian terminology about it.

how can you stand listening to these rambling stoners?

 

[sus]

The drake essay makes the same point very well

link?

@constant escape what does deleuze have to say about the Garden?

 

[versh]

The Man Who Has Everything: Mark Fisher on Drake’s Nothing Was the Same | Telekom Electronic Beats

Mark Fisher—the noted blogger known as K-Punk and the author of 'Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?'—deconstructs the Drake dilemma.

www.electronicbeats.net

 

[sus]

call me Reason. Suspended Reason.

 

[versh]

how can you stand listening to these rambling stoners?

I ask myself the same question whenever I log in.

 

[constant escape]

how can you stand listening to these rambling stoners?

Submit to it. Let the jargon wash over you. As for what is underneath the jargon - we talk about that stuff all the time here.

 

[luka]

it's not the jargon that bothers me. it's being in the company of a bunch of baggy trousered stoners. i wouldnt be surpirsed if some of them have got long hair. degenerates. they need to practice semen retention. get a bit of focus and energy back.

 

[Mr. Tea]

thats why men feel sad when theyve just shot their load @Corpsey

I've never understood why people say this. I tend to feel like David Shrigley after six cans of cola.

 

[versh]

it's not the jargon that bothers me. it's being in the company of a bunch of baggy trousered stoners. i wouldnt be surpirsed if some of them have got long hair. degenerates. they need to practice semen retention. get a bit of focus and energy back.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Probably depends on whether you've just made love to a beautiful woman, like Swiss Tony, or spunked into a sock while watching some furry/unbirth/tentacle-rape hentai.

 

[Mr. Tea]

If ska-punk and Skrillex-style "dubstep" had a baby...

 

[versh]

 

[constant escape]

link?

@constant escape what does deleuze have to say about the Garden?

I don't believe the people in the podcast ever mentioned what, if anything, deleuze had to say about it (Not sure even how the lives of Deleuze and Borges overlap). They really just analyzed the text, occasionally utilizing deleuzian concepts (EG the labyrinth as rhizomatic, which is debatable. One of the guys just tossed that word out there, willy nilly).

 

[constant escape]

I think Deleuze is too much for degenerates - or maybe thats just what I tell myself.