luka

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Not that I think you lot should try it. You're not exquisitely sensitive, finely tuned instruments with visionary imaginations and a preternatural feel for language
 

version

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The way things calcify and limit the imagination's really frustrating. There are so many formats of some many different things that we take as being the only way of doing those things. It would probably be impractical, but, hypothetically, imagine if Twitter flipped the timeline so it was horizontal rather than vertical. Imagine how people would respond, how jarring it would be for everyone. Imagine if they stopped referring to it as a timeline too and came up with a completely different name for it that didn't associate it with time.

That being said, I do hate change for the sake of change if something already works. Apple removing the headphone jack, for example.
 

luka

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It is frustrating and it's easy to feel like that about the way we interact on here and the patterns conversations fall into, and the old routines and the conclusions we come to and the dead ends we meet. But then something magic happens like pinhead craner. Just out of nowhere, magic, inspiration, genius.
 

version

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One way of eluding it to a certain degree is not entirely adopting someone else's language. You can read D&G or Baudrillard or whoever and run with their ideas, but if you start talking exactly like them then you immediately trap yourself within their respective projects. You can talk about the BwO or hyperreality without explicitly using those terms and it's easier to take them elsewhere if you uproot them.
 

linebaugh

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The internet activated some dormant oedipal drive in the mass psyche with regards to information. Daddy is the man who knows all references
 

linebaugh

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And generally the best way out of orbital, cyclonic thought is too ditch something as soon as you understand it
 

version

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And generally the best way out of orbit, cyclonic thought is too ditch something as soon as you understand it
D&G seem to have designed their books with that in mind. I can't see too much reread value once you've acquired the tools in their kit. They want you to apply them. You learn to ride a bike then you go out and ride it.
 

version

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One way of eluding it to a certain degree is not entirely adopting someone else's language. You can read D&G or Baudrillard or whoever and run with their ideas, but if you start talking exactly like them then you immediately trap yourself within their respective projects. You can talk about the BwO or hyperreality without explicitly using those terms and it's easier to take them elsewhere if you uproot them.
This is probably why the online theory crew seem so stagnant. If all you do is read theory then you can never take it elsewhere and plug it into anything.
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
And generally the best way out of orbital, cyclonic thought is too ditch something as soon as you understand it
The fact that there's a never ending supply of strangers to talk to makes this hard. Always some new idiot to destroy. Here we can get past that- no one argues with suspended about his quirks anymore except for sickos like tea because we understand that experiment and know its time to turn the dials again
 

linebaugh

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Which you can assuage by being an authority of things. Fill that hole with curated referential knowledge. I think thats a universal adolescent struggle- I remember watching my younger brother grow up and seeing the desperation for an archetype. One month he was into cars, then baseball, and etc.
 

linebaugh

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And my brother is easily satisfied so hes settled into a nice niche for himself but for many online I think there's a self consciousness of the contrived nature of personalities and its repulsive and you can get passed this if you know all the things
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I think if you didn't live a decent chunk of your life prior to the internet as we now know it then you're perhaps too damaged by it to write anything decent. I can't think of any good writers around my age or younger.
Yeah I do think this a serious thing. Self-guided guinea pigs, save for whatever guidance was intentionally programmed.
 

version

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Which you can assuage by being an authority of things. Fill that hole with curated referential knowledge. I think thats a universal adolescent struggle- I remember watching my younger brother grow up and seeing the desperation for an archetype. One month he was into cars, then baseball, and etc.
And my brother is easily satisfied so hes settled into a nice niche for himself but for many online I think there's a self consciousness of the contrived nature of personalities and its repulsive and you can get passed this if you know all the things
And the internet sends it into overdrive because it's a near-infinite and constantly updating source of information,

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linebaugh

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Yah, weve talked about this in the 4chan thread I think. Theres always some new angle on a thing you hadn't considered and thus you arent some autonomous, realized Self but actually just another automation.
 

version

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And my brother is easily satisfied so hes settled into a nice niche for himself but for many online I think there's a self consciousness of the contrived nature of personalities and its repulsive and you can get passed this if you know all the things
I've seen a fair few people complaining about other online people switching political identities like outfits. One week they're a communist, the next they're an anarchist.

I wonder whether what previously made people settle into an identity was simply that they had no choice but to. We've all dreamed of being someone else at one time or another. Something as simple as changing your username or avatar on a site can become a compulsion. I don't know how many names I had on Discord.
 
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