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Barty is saying to The Wire, your careers are irrelevant, they are nothing but modulations of capital, they have no community unto themselves. Course theyd get Muggs to review it. Who else would be willing to do the old man yells at cloud routine?
 

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That's the point. You guys are annoyed at Muggs for strawmanning the book, which he does. But those who read repeater are not rap heads. This is what makes barty's intervension so funny. He's using techniques which are seen as inauthentic by rap journalist standards.

Im gonna read it when I can spend an evening laughing my bollocks off. That's what I owe to barty. But not right now when I'm going through a hard time.
 

luka

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Tim Finey writes very well. its very informed by his legal mind. its very precise and methodical in how it presents and structures its arguments
 

Benny Bunter

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Cool to see this one crop up in the book, a fave of mine. Alkaline's 2 verses on this are insane, described in the book as "rabies-spluttering liquid silicone into your ears." Nice contrast with Mavado as well.
 

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Tim Finey writes very well. its very informed by his legal mind. its very precise and methodical in how it presents and structures its arguments

Muggs can structure arguments as well. It's just that you don't agree with the arguments he's formulating (neither do I really.) Id expect you to be more mature with regards to Joe's shortcomings, of which there are many.

From a rap journo perspective, his tumblr post is correct. Thats my point.
 

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But who is saying all writing has to be respectful, deferent? That's my disagreement with Joe. That barty is engaging in an act of creative misrecognition. His strength is precisely that he's some disrespectful new labour wanker who is trying to drag his audience kicking and screaming to abandon Gilbert's putrified nonsense. That's the strength! Joe is still obsessed with Corbyn. I'm not. Let it go mate! It's ancient history now!
 
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So are you saying that really this is all about Tony Blair and Jeremy Corbyn?

Yes. Honestly the only good thing Blair did was abolish clause 4. Liberating. We don't even have to pretend labour is even a remotely socialist party now.
 

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The only people who ever believed that were socialists.

Yes, agreed. But my intellectual culture is not British. Too much methodism in britain, not enough Marxism. You even turn religion so wimpy that there's no need for anticlericalism. pathetic.
 

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This tune sounded around 1000 times better after reading neon screams, and I liked it well enough before

classic, but how is that neon screams territory? I like that era of Kartel as well but that's very much in the 00s dancehall lineage.
 
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