wild greens

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Luke is right just get pissed and make sure you choose a slightly run down bar, not a high end one. If they are showing sports that is the place to be

After this book the second week of August in Benidorm and really go for it
 

sus

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i get what you mean about being part of an invasion. thinking about la condesa, and those other bits of town which are lovely but where you can see the foreigners taking over, the young ones, the ones who like nice coffee and who are probably pretty nice, yeah i can see that for sure
Yeah... Condesa and Roma's feel like Willysburg
 

luka

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Trust us, it really does work. I suffer from what you are describing very bad,y and have relied on this method several times I promise you it has never failed.
This thread's turned into white people encouraging other white people.
Mutual support agency
 
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Clinamenic

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Yeah this is a liberal neurosis I'm deeply familiar with. One way to see through it / get out of it is to grok that liberal guilt and self-pity have little to no purpose, and chiefly come at one's own detriment.
 

version

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This thread's making me want to finally read my copy of Under the Volcano,

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luka

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One reason the drinking works so well is it shows you that the locals don't all hate you
 
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luka

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So it dissolves that paranoia in a way nothing else can. You start to feel welcome in the place.
 
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Clinamenic

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One reason the drinking works so well is it shows you that the locals don't all hate you
Also central to my experience of this liberal neurosis, was the desire to claim some sort of solidarity with people whose particular struggles I really couldn't relate to ultimately.
 
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Clinamenic

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Hence my recourse being a general kindness, in acceptance that such solidarity is earned in ways that are harder than just being a good progressive.
 

shakahislop

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Yeah... Condesa and Roma's feel like Willysburg
it's possibly even some of the same people. when i was there airbnb'ing in the roma bit last year, i was coming from greenpoint. it's the same demographic as the people who move to brooklyn. it's two things at the same time; great for the people who get to do it, and shit for the people who have to make space for it.
 

version

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Yeah this is a liberal neurosis I'm deeply familiar with. One way to see through it / get out of it is to grok that liberal guilt and self-pity have little to no purpose, and chiefly come at one's own detriment.
You could also imagine how embarrassing it would be if you tried to describe said neurosis to the people who live there.
 

luka

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All right, Geoffrey: suppose we forget it until you’re feeling better: we can cope with it in a day or two, when you’re sober.”
“But good lord!”
The Consul sat perfectly still staring at the floor while the enormity of the insult passed into his soul. As if, as if, as if, he were not sober now! Yet there was some elusive subtlety in the impeachment that still escaped him. For he was not sober. No, he was not, not at this very moment he wasn’t! But what had that to do with a minute before, or half an hour ago? And what right had Yvonne to assume it, assume either that he was not sober now, or that, far worse, in a day or two he would be sober? And even if he were not sober now, by what fabulous stages, comparable indeed only to the paths and spheres of the Holy Cabbala itself, had he reached this stage again, touched briefly once before this morning, this stage at which alone he could, as she put it, “cope,” this precarious precious stage, so arduous to maintain, of being drunk in which alone he was sober! What right had she, when he had sat suffering the tortures of the damned and the madhouse on her behalf for fully twenty-five minutes on end without having a decent drink, even to hint that he was anything but, to her eyes, sober? Ah, a woman could not know the perils, the complications, yes, the importance of a drunkard’s life! From what conceivable standpoint of rectitude did she imagine she could judge what was anterior to her arrival? And she knew nothing whatever of what all too recently he had gone through, his fall in the Calle Nicaragua, his aplomb, coolness, even bravery there—the Burke’s Irish whiskey! What a world. And the trouble was she had now spoiled the moment. Because the Consul now felt that he might have been capable, remembering Yvonne’s “perhaps I’ll have one after breakfast,” and all that implied, of saying, in a minute (but for her remark and yes, in spite of any salvation), “Yes, by all means you are right: let us go!” But who could agree with someone who was so certain you were going to be sober the day after to-morrow? It wasn’t as though either, upon the most superficial plane, it were not well-known that no one could tell when he was drunk. Just like the Taskersons: God bless them. He was not the person to be seen reeling about in the street. True he might lie down in the street, if need be, like a gentleman; but he would not reel. Ah, what a world it was, that trampled down the truth and drunkards alike! A world full of bloodthirsty people, no less!
 
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