Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero

[shakahislop]

It's not a good song, she's certainly no Adele, luka won't go out to bat for her, but there's something interesting about this being the kind of pop music that comes out at the moment. it reminds me a bit of some of the white american frustration that grunge expressed, but channeled into a kind of narcotised and more self-controlled form full of therapy-speak. it's hyper self-aware. it almost functions as an excuse. as usual the main thing to talk about is that this resonates with millions of people and what that says about the places we live.

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

i think its a good song. and i often find her irritating.

 

[Murphy]

Not what I was expecting to see after writing on the merits of baseball during handover

 

[thirdform]

Taylor Swift is, I think, proof positive of my contention that Western culture has become so myopically short termist in terms of deriving pleasure that it can never transcend the fixation valourising teenage emotions, even when the vitality for its participants in their 30s and 40s is no longer extant. See for instance ilx. Borderline perverted.

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

ive not heard enough TS to really say but she seems like all her stuff is written from the POV of a teenage girl. the weird girl-gang-like obsessiveness/protectiveness of her fans seems to be a result of that.

 

[craner]

Taylor Swift is, I think, proof positive of my contention that Western culture has become so myopically short termist in terms of deriving pleasure that it can never transcend the fixation valourising teenage emotions, even when the vitality for its participants in their 30s and 40s is no longer extant. See for instance ilx. Borderline perverted.

You can only say that because you have never been to Nashville.

 

[luka]

It's not a good song, she's certainly no Adele, luka won't go out to bat for her, but there's something interesting about this being the kind of pop music that comes out at the moment. it reminds me a bit of some of the white american frustration that grunge expressed, but channeled into a kind of narcotised and more self-controlled form full of therapy-speak. it's hyper self-aware. it almost functions as an excuse. as usual the main thing to talk about is that this resonates with millions of people and what that says about the places we live.

not heard the song but this sounds sensible

 

[luka]

for me i think she is more like a tv show than a pop star. she always reminds me of sabrina the teenage witch. the asides and so on. the way the character is constructed.

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

i dont see any therapy speak in the lyrics though. plenty of that about, i just dont see it here.

shes already got a place as one of the Great American Songwriters of our time anyway.

 

[luka]

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Taylor Swift "Anti-Hero": I have this thing where I get older, but just never wiser Midnights become my afternoons When my dep...

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plenty of therapy speak here

 

[thirdform]

You can only say that because you have never been to Nashville.

Don't need to. Grown adults should get into Barbara Acklin and get serious!

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

only therapy speak i see is "I'm the problem"

 

[luka]

well you must be using a very fine mesh sieve

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

just cut and paste the therapy speak here.

i want to learn how to speak more therapy-like.

 

[luka]

i cant be fucked, its not things youre therapist would say, its language informed by a therapy framework. i think youre being pedantic. its like every line.

 

[shakahislop]

maybe another entry into my pet list of musicians becoming super famous and absolutely not being able to handle it. its almost cruel that we collectively do this to someone. i guess the riches and all the obvious advantages are a counterbalance to that to some extent. but still.

 

[luka]

i enjoyed the sadism of the liz truss hazing

 

[luka]

it was absolutely great. had a real big brother reality tv ritual feel to it. like she was made a scapegoat for everything that is wrong with this country. but she volunteered for it so no need to feel a shred of sympathy

 

[luka]

also shes a weird greta thunberg looking autistic

 

[Leo]

You can only say that because you have never been to Nashville.

Craner, tell us again about your travels through the American South.