Films you've seen recently and would recommend WITH reservations
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droid
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The clumsy metaphorical stuff is shit, but, whatever. Its his exploitation of Hiberno-English thats really annoying. Its generally not something that outsiders notice, and there's a few very popular Irish authors that are famous for a very cynical deployment of Irish phrasing. And youd just be pushing the language a bit into that area now, and then youd be after seeing a bit of money come in from the yanks and the brits, and before you know it, you do be falling over yourself and all the way down into the oul cliche and stereotype.
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My Irish friend says:
Em a bit Beckett
But spot on as far the tropes go
Martin mc Donagh is a better play
write imo
His parents are Irish and he's got a
strange fetish for west of Ireland
Im convinced he named the pub John
Joe's after kilcar
They did a reccy there
But i did like it
Wasn't sure if he was taking the piss a
bit though
But the characters and the brutality
was on point
Em a bit Beckett
But spot on as far the tropes go
Martin mc Donagh is a better play
write imo
His parents are Irish and he's got a
strange fetish for west of Ireland
Im convinced he named the pub John
Joe's after kilcar
They did a reccy there
But i did like it
Wasn't sure if he was taking the piss a
bit though
But the characters and the brutality
was on point
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
I also recently saw Banshees, or tbf I gave up halfway thru bc I thought it was boring and unfunny. Probably the last I'll spend time on a McDonagh project. I said the same thing after Three Billboards - possibly the most clueless European take on America I've ever seen, which as you all would say, is going some - but this one has good press, Brendan Gleeson is always great, I like very dark comedies, etc.
But yeah, unwatchable. The cast are doing their best but the jokes are flat, the metaphors are as subtle as a hammer to the face, and even as a foreigner you get the strong feeling that his view of Ireland, especially old-timey tiny village Ireland, is about as realistic as his take on middle America. Also, both his dialogue and overall story stricture are extremely stagey, a la Mamet but worse, in a way that doesn't translate well to the screen.
But yeah, unwatchable. The cast are doing their best but the jokes are flat, the metaphors are as subtle as a hammer to the face, and even as a foreigner you get the strong feeling that his view of Ireland, especially old-timey tiny village Ireland, is about as realistic as his take on middle America. Also, both his dialogue and overall story stricture are extremely stagey, a la Mamet but worse, in a way that doesn't translate well to the screen.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
Haven't watched In Bruges in awhile from memory I suspect it holds up
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
Surely even stereotypical tiny village Ireland has been done better by numerous filmmakers. Waking Ned Devine immediately comes to mind or possibly even some of the Doyle Barrytown films if you take them as an urban village of sorts. I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of our resident Irish folks (droid, shiels, and iirc @Sectionfive ?)
droid
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Its complicated, but basically its the influence the Irish language had on the grammar, syntax and pronunciation of English as spoken in Ireland.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
Actually if anyone wants a totally unreserved recommendation for a dark Irish dramedy written by a McDonagh and starring Brendan Gleeson, go watch Calvary, by Martin's older brother John (who seems, on evidence, the superior McDonagh). I haven't seen their earlier film together, The Guard, but that's also supposed to be quite good.
