muting
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I'm not back for another discussion. Just informing Luke that communism will abolish narcotics, and he will no longer be able to be a usufructuary traitor to the health of the species.
Incidentally, why the poptimist project failed, in attempting to narcotise music concomitant to neoliberal desire and Deleuze. FACTS DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!
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wild greens
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What if this concept of "muting" in art or whatever is really just becoming encumbered by narrative as opposed to a genuine apathy or disaffection. There is too much self-awareness and supposed self-referential irony in something like this Employee of the Month album to be really a genuine expression of desolation.
Likewise the faded aesthetic being co-opted into the mainstream r&b or loser guitar music world, is surely more of a strategic attempt to capitalise on a misanthropic consumer disillusionment as opposed to heartfelt sorrow- vessels of empathy pushed through the record company monolith via high-end streaming apps. Nicely packaged. Or in the form of self-released music, the alleged artist portal in bandcamp or soundcloud, both owned by corporate money now. Why is ambient so popular now, because you are told that the modern world is strangling the life out of you, so here is our corporate packaged remedy.
Wellness apps, cbd drinks next to the fruit juice in Sainsbury's, an apple music feeling blue playlist. The interpassivity idea
Two cribbed ideas in a row from capitalist realism but the francis fukuyama end of history idea- or to paraprashe the reprise in thebthe top ten grime MC thread, the end of music- in order to allow the artistic style to flourish. This modern world can only be expressed by the removal of edges, the opiate reverb sound, self-referential sampling to portray a sense of lost future. Japanese aesthetic is key here as itself was so romanticised as some endless tech future that it becomes a tragic nostalgia in itself. As the real saudi arabian desert wall odyssey middle eastern super oil future emerges
Arguably you have to be trapped in a different mythology to create music that removes itself from the nostalgic turpor, your new york/london/(any modern inner city poverty) drill nihilism; the hyper-gloss binary isolation of a pc music; or to be so removed in i.e. african diaspora or brazil favela sound that the western tragic lost future doesnt absorb your influence
Likewise the faded aesthetic being co-opted into the mainstream r&b or loser guitar music world, is surely more of a strategic attempt to capitalise on a misanthropic consumer disillusionment as opposed to heartfelt sorrow- vessels of empathy pushed through the record company monolith via high-end streaming apps. Nicely packaged. Or in the form of self-released music, the alleged artist portal in bandcamp or soundcloud, both owned by corporate money now. Why is ambient so popular now, because you are told that the modern world is strangling the life out of you, so here is our corporate packaged remedy.
Wellness apps, cbd drinks next to the fruit juice in Sainsbury's, an apple music feeling blue playlist. The interpassivity idea
Two cribbed ideas in a row from capitalist realism but the francis fukuyama end of history idea- or to paraprashe the reprise in thebthe top ten grime MC thread, the end of music- in order to allow the artistic style to flourish. This modern world can only be expressed by the removal of edges, the opiate reverb sound, self-referential sampling to portray a sense of lost future. Japanese aesthetic is key here as itself was so romanticised as some endless tech future that it becomes a tragic nostalgia in itself. As the real saudi arabian desert wall odyssey middle eastern super oil future emerges
Arguably you have to be trapped in a different mythology to create music that removes itself from the nostalgic turpor, your new york/london/(any modern inner city poverty) drill nihilism; the hyper-gloss binary isolation of a pc music; or to be so removed in i.e. african diaspora or brazil favela sound that the western tragic lost future doesnt absorb your influence
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wild greens
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Even the mainstream sound that this artistic xanax cul de sac is meant to be a reaction to is really just propelling itself through ancient styles, the garage revivial the jungle revival, modern house sounding more and more like 2001 nrg house etc (dota, lf system, patrick topping and them lot)
woops
is not like other people
are u reading this, repeater books?
wild greens
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I think i could knock it out in a week
A Disaffection: How Modern Capitalism Created The Myth Of Why Ambient Is So Popular Now
A Disaffection: How Modern Capitalism Created The Myth Of Why Ambient Is So Popular Now
Baudrillard said the real issue was that there is no end, and that without an end, both in the sense of an ending and a goal, then history and whatever else becomes purposeless, a process extending itself infinitely into the void, leaving us floundering.
wild greens
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Is our fascination with opinions of men from the fading past not part of the same issue;
We can try and import relevance to old decaying thought- there is an Engels reference earlier on and hes been dead 130 years- but as culture and technology accelerates exponentially, perhaps we must contemplate the death of ancient wisdom and the need for new contemplation and assessment?
My point there (horrendous spelling a detraction, admittedly) is actually that the "death" of cultural moments is actually needed to create this disaffection ideal. Not that there is the death of culture but if we buy into the concept that there is, it allows for us to enter this nostalgic "endpoint" which creates the current reflective malaise
We can try and import relevance to old decaying thought- there is an Engels reference earlier on and hes been dead 130 years- but as culture and technology accelerates exponentially, perhaps we must contemplate the death of ancient wisdom and the need for new contemplation and assessment?
My point there (horrendous spelling a detraction, admittedly) is actually that the "death" of cultural moments is actually needed to create this disaffection ideal. Not that there is the death of culture but if we buy into the concept that there is, it allows for us to enter this nostalgic "endpoint" which creates the current reflective malaise
That's partly what he was saying, that the illusion of an end is what allows people to look back and grapple with things.
wild greens
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This bit isnt going in my book
luka
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Antidepressants can cause ‘emotional blunting’, study shows
Volunteers less responsive to positive and negative feedback after course of serotonin-controlling drugs
www.theguardian.com
luka
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WashYourHands
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Antidepressants can cause ‘emotional blunting’, study shows
Volunteers less responsive to positive and negative feedback after course of serotonin-controlling drugs
cheaper than getting to the roots of any psychological issues, aka default settings
had a client who’d been on an ssri for two decades without a single meds review until he sat down with our org, tapered him off them and decluttered his mind before commencing on the real graft work
you could do a hundred PhD’s on medication failures and nothing learned would be implemented
linebaugh
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its an appeal to an aesthetic sensibility that shirks all outsideness as much as it is a quasi opiate. Maybe this isnt a new thing though. The world is hyperactive and loud but everything 'fits'. theres appeal in how 'sensible' ambient is. like beats-to-relax-and-study-to, its use was immediately understood by everyone. Same goes for more aggressive genres like trap, ostensibly anti social but popular because its practical. If you play 80's rap, older dance music, or foriegn music people will litterally squirm though. theres no use for these genres outside of comedy.
shiels
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Had to read this twice. You mean it’s functional?
shiels
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It references nothing, very few signifiers. In this sense it can feel like freedom from being human, and other humans. It’s best when it feels like it was made by no one and if you leave on a massive playlist you can’t tell the difference between the artists and that doesn’t even matter cos the judgments of good and bad don’t apply in the same way, only at the extreme ends of quality