Suspended's Poetry Apprenticeship

[Corpsey]

Remember that contemporary poet we found on here who wrote about fair maidens/the lady of shallot etc. ?

 

[Corpsey]

Here it is

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/po...for-the-disused-nonconformist-chapel-wildhern

Please read and annotate this luka lol you will love it

''I met her. The gray, lavish eyes. A ruthless stare softened
by an accent. She was gracious, even to my callow posturing — 
called one windy effort that ended O Lord thou draggest me out
a most faithful homage to Eliot, grave with kindly mockery.''

Don't want to hop on a bandwagon but I can't help but read this through the lens of a teary wank over the lady of shallot now and I picture him using the phrase 'm'lady' when acourting he does go.

 

[luka]

this is why i am the inventor of modern poetry the only human of the modern age to have found a way to write a poem. everyone says so.

 

[Corpsey]

He looks a bit like this guy too. The scraggly beard. The public schooled cheekbones.

 

[luka]

you have to make the language come alive you have to make it sing and dance you have to be able to make it spare and lovely you have to be able to make it dense and rebarbative

 

[mixed_biscuits]

this is why i am the inventor of modern poetry the only human of the modern age to have found a way to write a poem. everyone says so.

Is Luka the realDonaldTrump? Has anyone met him and can confirm?

 

[luka]

you have to subject it to extreme forces. you have to be able to speak out of many moods.

 

[luka]

you have to be able to give a shape to weirdo revelations you have to venture into the schizo territories

 

[luka]

you have to capture the ugliness and vulgarity of the modern world you have to sound like you are actually alive in the 21st century

 

[mixed_biscuits]

you have to be able to give a shape to weirdo revelations you have to venture into the schizo territories

This is just a thinly veiled advert for the shadow pharmaceutical industry.

 

[luka]

you have to have a thousand voices you have to be able to wriggle out from under the Big 'I'.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

you have to capture the ugliness and vulgarity of the modern world you have to sound like you are actually alive in the 21st century

But his world isn't ugly and vulgar it's a world of taste, refinement, and ever-branching intellectual quests.

 

[luka]

you have to channel voices from outside yourself. you have to be alert to the forces that act upon you.

 

[luka]

you have to be aware of how the language is changing and the various ways in which its used

 

[luka]

you have to impatient with old and outmoded models.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

If you want hardscrabble grit then Tony Harrison is the man, another master of the art.

 

[luka]

you have to like flowers, trees, the internet, rap music

 

[luka]

you have to be able to identify all the varities of duck commonly seen in city waterways

 

[luka]

you need to look closely and feel intensely. you need to have a musicality of speech.

 

[Corpsey]

The archaic forms seem to induce many poets into using archaic language (perhaps because those forms were initially evolved in an era of "whereto"s etc.).

I can see the appeal, too, since a huge chunk of the best poetry written was written in those forms. But the forms are exhausted.

Also it's very hard to write formally structured verse, especially spreading sentences out over stanzas, that don't use filler words/redundancies/clunky rhymes/convoluted grammar, etc.

English is rhyme poor, which is one of the factors that probably made free verse inevitable.

I wonder if something like this applies in the case of rap music, too, where the constriction of rhyming Line A with Line B meant rap had to evolve out of that straightforward "bars" mode?