Tentative Andy
I'm in the Meal Deal
Hahaha, fair point.
questions you are dying to ask but are too scared to b/c of music nerd cred?
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pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
always wondered why most flyers are so ambiguous as to what genres to expect from the night they're promoting. esp with todays sea of unheard of djs
and does it do a night any favors when the location is kept a secret?
and does it do a night any favors when the location is kept a secret?
Ulala
Awkward Woodward
Ambiguity - I think if you are promoting a night that will stick to one style then it inevitably does appear on the flyer, usually with extraneous adjectives, e.g. "funky sexy groovy house" (for which read: David Guetta and whatever's on the latest Hed Kandi CD) or "filthy dirty mum-raping dubstep!!!". I see your point in that if the night consists entirely of no-name DJs then there needs to be some sort of descriptor, but if each DJ is playing a different style (or plays multiple styles in their set) then fitting them all on the flyer is tricky, and to be honest, when I do see flyers that say "House/R&B/Dubstep/Indie/Party" I immediately become suspicious. I have a sneaking fondness for flyers that list all the artists whose music is likely to be played, checklist-style - if you like all these artists, come to this night! There'll be no unpleasant surprises or, heaven forbid, anything new or interesting.
Secret Location - I think this is largely an attempt to channel the essence of the early rave scene, the anticipation and in-crowdiness. There's no harm in it, though if you live in London it's inevitably Hearn St Car Park. I don't think it benefits or harms the night particularly, though it's harder to pull off unless you're booking name DJs or the night is already well-established.
Sectionfive
bandwagon house
Anyone know that tune when they show prizes or items on a conveyor belt?
Played on a xylophone I think.
Played on a xylophone I think.
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
agree with the fun of the unknown and am all for being surprised. but sometimes it just seems like it would help the night to draw more punters if it at least gave a hint.
re: channeling the rave scene, fair enough, i guess. seems a bit forced though.[/grandad]
while i'm at it, why do some artists release a single with someone elses remix of their song on it? wouldn't it be better to put 2 of your own tunes on there? surely that's better self promotion?
aaaaand, why call something a remix if there's no discernable similarity to the original track?
that one is the one question i've always wondered but never bothered because of the nerd cred thing
re: channeling the rave scene, fair enough, i guess. seems a bit forced though.[/grandad]
while i'm at it, why do some artists release a single with someone elses remix of their song on it? wouldn't it be better to put 2 of your own tunes on there? surely that's better self promotion?
aaaaand, why call something a remix if there's no discernable similarity to the original track?
that one is the one question i've always wondered but never bothered because of the nerd cred thing
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
There's a difference between being surprised by hearing all sorts of crazy new stuff that you hadn't heard of before, and being surprised because they rinse fairly predictable dubstep tunes all night...
the idiot
Member
When the venue is 'TBA' you do tend to expect it to be a venue that isn't a nightclub. recently i've had a ticket to something that was listed as TBA and the venue turned out to be a proper 'only way is essex' type of fully licensed nightclub. was pissed off to say the least.
I know what you mean but I don't know what it is. Read this post earlier and I've had the tune in my head all day, I'm holding you personally responsible
hint
party record with a siren
Sectionfive
bandwagon house
hint, you're a badman.
Now everyone can have it in their head
Now everyone can have it in their head
hint
party record with a siren
Getting a known name's remix on a release is just a form of advertising through association, usually. An "if you like artist X... maybe you'll like Y" kind of thing. Especially in the underground / independent music scene.
A good remix can help sell a release to people who might otherwise ignore it.
A bad / average remix can make the original look better.
Sectionfive
bandwagon house
See Villalobos/Skull Disco.
Saved the record label as far I know
Saved the record label as far I know
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
no shit!
riiiiight. gotcha.
that only leaves the unrecognizable remix question.
hint
party record with a siren
Well, usually it'll be a case of a label paying for a remix from A Name™ and feeling obliged to use it no matter what.
Totally unrecognizable remixes come about through laziness, lack of musical ability, mischief... loads of reasons.
trza
Well-known member
I always associated the no-name boring remixes on b-sides or dance music 12"s to be made for dj's who want something to mix, no matter how boring or uninspired it sounds. Just the tiniest changing of the drum pattern or a big long intro of just thumping noises so any idiot can match it to another record.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
Yeah, well with pop and chartbound dance it seems to be about getting as much exposure as possible by getting it into as many clubs as possible.
With stuff that sells mainly to DJs it seems to happen a bit when they know it's a must-have tune anyway so there's no point sticking something in the same genre on from a sales point of view - you might as well stick another style on, and hopefully get a whole other lot of DJs to buy it too. This seems to be the case for a lot of early funky releases - you'll get a UK funky mix, a straight house mix, a bassline mix and so on.
Unrecognisable remixes - who cares really, if it's any good?
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
no shit!