and yet meir kahane was fearful of an arab majority developing in Israel, so using majority agreement is never a valid criteria.
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and yet meir kahane was fearful of an arab majority developing in Israel, so using majority agreement is never a valid criteria.
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He seems to be worried about that precisely because it is a valid criterion.
Mr. Tea
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If abortion were half as important to Commandante Biscuits as he protests is it, he'd surely support both Hamas and the PLO (since abortion is illegal under almost all circumstances in both Gaza and the West Bank) and oppose Israel (where baby-murder is available on request).
Well, if you think that, then you have to admit you are a racist proponent of ethnic cleansing and cannot stick it to the progressives.
This doesn't bother me, you could be a Kahanist for all I care, but it makes your posting look
rather foolish, doubly so when you condemn others 'sloppy propaganda'. even if Israel was somehow not genocidal, you have outed yourself as being so, based on the democratic criterion.
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Gaza Strip in maps: How a year of war has drastically changed life in the territory
A visual guide to how much has changed in the Gaza Strip since Israel began its military response to Hamas's attacks on 7 October.
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Democracy isn't always going to output ethical decisions i.e. decisions aren't ethical because they are democratic.
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Conflict can't be dictated by a single issue in that way.
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This is the logic the left uses to decide whether a country worrying about its culture being undermined by immigration is good or bad: if they are a country of oppressed people, it's good that they worry; if they are oppressors it's bad.
So a Palestinian state would be acting morally to exclude Jews from within its borders but Japan is immoral for having such an exclusionary attitude. Come to think of it, nobody cares about Japan. It's too far away.
So thirdform is being disingenuous, using 'racist' as a derogatory epithet, as he well knows he would consider the same action racist but also moral if performed by different people.
no I merely stated it as a logical consequence of your thinking, the rest is your own insecure projection about culture. If you think Kahane was ultimately right (and it seems to us that democracy produces many Kahanes) then you need to expel all arabs from Israel. it matters not a jot if 'racist' is an epithet in this argument. Getting offended about this is intellectual cowardice. It is a racialist policy at the level of the state. No need to sugar coat it, you stupid cunt lmfao.
Own your lane, not doing so is undignified.
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absolutely, this is the most profound thing you have said.
It is an indictment of democratic ideology though, even if you think democracy is the best system, you leave yourself open to attack.
Mr. Tea
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Is it a good idea to be constantly scanning the news/Twitter etc. for this stuff? I know it can be hard to look away but there's obviously nothing any of us can do about it.
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it's probably not and i've thought about this as well. whenever i see these images i quickly scroll further because i don't want to see them, at the same time i also don't want to ignore it. we can do something about it though can we? we can inform other people? we can demonstrate? we can engage in direct action? i guess non of that will stop anything immediately but i don't think it would be without effect either.
Mr. Tea
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Demonstrations happen all over the world all the time and Israel obviously DGAF, nor does it seem to have much impact on the policies of the governments in those countries. By far the biggest supporter of Israel is the USA, in fact I'd say it's the only country with any real potential for leverage over Israel, and the choice there is between a party that's strongly pro-Israel and one that's really, really, really pro-Israel.
As far as direct action goes, I guess you could always travel there, sign up with Hamas and almost certainly get killed, or bomb a Boeing factory and spend the rest of your life in prison.
I donate to a Palestinian medical charity and try not to expose myself to the horror of what's going on too much.
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You've got a big non-sequitur there.
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ISIS bride yyaldrin arrives at Hamas HQ, is instantly put in the hostages pen for leverage on the Netherlands.
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But then the Dutch government will look at his internet history and say 'nah, never heard of him', whereupon Hamas will execute him to save on dog food and cattle prods.
I don't think you know what that word means.