Mercury sucks (2008 redux)

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Pangaea

Active member
kode 9 to collect burial's prize with his 'i am not burial' box on his head

i've seen odds of 6/1 so i'm tempted to stick a tenner on it...
 
STN

STN

sou'wester
Are radiohead any good? I don't believe I've ever bothered to listen to them. I know that sounds cockish but I don't think I've heard anything since I threw OK Computer out of the window of a blood-spattered Ford Escort.
 
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tom pr

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i think the problem with radiohead is that pretty much everything they do is good- it's just all very neatly structured and just the right length and level of conciseness, and you can't really relate to such ivory towers of records. or i can't. it feels a bit like music made with everything done according to a textbook.

they have their moments though- all of kid a, 'wolf at the door', 'life in a glass house', stuff like that.

on william hill earlier today them and last shadow puppets were favourites, then burial was 6/1 - the same odds as robert plant and fucking elbow! everything else 8s or 10s.
 
Slothrop

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
noel emits said:
They'll be adjusting their odds largely based on what bets are being made at this stage I should think.
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Erm yeah - afaik, bookies don't care who's actually most likely to win, they want to make sure that whoever wins they come out ahead. So it's mostly based on who people want to put money on.
 
mos dan

mos dan

fact music
it really would've been bloody smart to get odds on burial before the nomination list came up... just never crossed my mind, dang.
 
mos dan

mos dan

fact music
Slothrop said:
Erm yeah - afaik, bookies don't care who's actually most likely to win, they want to make sure that whoever wins they come out ahead. So it's mostly based on who people want to put money on.
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yeah odds always move according to where the money's going, it's just financial prudence from the bookies.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
"yeah odds always move according to where the money's going, it's just financial prudence from the bookies."
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Well, this is true but in, say, horse-racing the bookies have an extra layer of expertise and a knowledgable (and brave) bookie will keep longer odds than his rivals on a horse his expertise tells him isn't going to win even if there is a lot of money going on it (though of course not to the extent of giving any of the punters a middle). My (admittedly not that exciting) point was that on this issue the bookies do not have that extra level of expertise so it's purely about where money goes and their odds therefore aren't much use other than as a guide to which record the bookies think most people will think will win.
 
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crackerjack

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IdleRich said:
My (admittedly not that exciting) point was that on this issue the bookies do not have that extra level of expertise so it's purely about where money goes and their odds therefore aren't much use other than as a guide to which record the bookies think most people will think will win.
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Well they can't study the artists' form, but they can exercise their judgement about what is or isn't in with a chnace. I mean, Rachel Untokenfolk ain't gonna win in a million years (unless she does, in which case we will all declare it was a fix to 'prove' that tokenfolk and tokenjazz aren't tokens at all).
 
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Diggedy Derek

Stray Dog
It is quite a good thing to bet on, the Mercury. The bookies have very little clue, and although us music buffs don't know a whole lot more, you've got a decent chance of getting a result.

Mind you, what do I know, I bet on Hot Chip winning a while back.
 
Chef Napalm

Chef Napalm

Lost in the Supermarket
The only two nominees that sound any good to me are burial and Neon Neon. I have to say that the idea of a concept album based on the life of John DeLorean appeals to me a great deal. Is it any good?
 
straight

straight

wings cru
British Sea Power do it again! unbelievable. id love to shake the hand of their PR as they themselves deserve an award for perpetuating the myth that this band produce forward looking experimental music.

Managed to miss neon neon last week in germany though their album is good fun, mix up of moroder style soundtracks and timbalandish bangers. Good example of people you wouldnt expect getting together and coming out with a great album and i think the panel could go for that. Or adele, one of the two.
 
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mms

sometimes
Chef Napalm said:
The only two nominees that sound any good to me are burial and Neon Neon. I have to say that the idea of a concept album based on the life of John DeLorean appeals to me a great deal. Is it any good?
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it indulges in power pop - christopher cross/ starship kinda cheesyness, nice songs, touch if r and b, a little italo, a kind of concept album made from cheesy 80's pop.
 
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