Boozeless cold remedies

[Mr. Tea]

Or you could pay Dr. Shaman Medicine Man $500/week for his special "detoxifying" herbs and potions.

If I'm paying $500 for some herbs, I'd want to get properly fucking toxified off them!

 

[zhao]

You can take all the supplements you want, but anyone who knows anything about chemistry or the human metabolism will tell you, that crap is being pawned off by an industry with a high stake in whether you believe a human will actually absorb 10,000% of the RDA of two hundred vitamins and minerals from a pill (or powder, or shake, or whatever.)

yes, most of that crap is not very good. but that doesn't mean amazing herbal supplements don't exist. what i take is 100% raw and organic, rich in minerals and vitamins, and mixed in a way to allow maximum absorbtion.

Or you could pay Dr. Shaman Medicine Man $500/week for his special "detoxifying" herbs and potions.

this is just mindless negativity based on mainstream stereotypes. you don't know jack about what kind of natural healing doctor i go to.

i have never paid an herbal doctor anything to get the knowledge about diet and nutrition. the herbal products i speak of is very cheap, $20 will last you months.

only time i paid a natural healer is when he helped me avoid certain major surgery if i had gone to a hospital -- he fixed the problem in about 10 minutes and i was 100% healthy 24 hours later. and for that i paid him $150. a fraction of the hospital bill.

If I go longer than 10 days without a cheeseburger I become irritable.

that's because your body is used to it -- i.e. addicted.

 

[nomadologist]

Hey, don't get testy! If you're going to try to tell people that basic biochemistry is "false", be prepared to be laughed at.

What exactly does "mixed for absorption" mean? These are things that I can't help but wonder.

If your herbal remedies work for you, that's fine, but never underestimate the power of the placebo.

 

[nomadologist]

actually, if you wanna get to the nitty gritty, the question is more complicated. because the act of COOKING kills most of the good and healthy things in anything you eat, including meat. raw beef is indeed a very healthy source of protein and energy, but a human body needs very, very little of it -- like i said, size of your thumb a week.

a burger does not "give you energy". only thing it does is slow you down, and weaken your system. well, and taste good.

A burger will give you about 500 calories more energy than a banana. At least.

Do you realize a "calorie" is a measurement of energy?

 

[Gavin]

that's because your body is used to it -- i.e. addicted.

I'm ok with that.

 

[Gavin]

"A hamburger not eaten to the end by the dead consumer is a revolutionary hamburger."

 

[mistersloane]

"A hamburger not eaten to the end by the dead consumer is a revolutionary hamburger."

Oh my god that's the best quote I've heard in fucking years. Death to the fascist insect!!

 

[mistersloane]

Anyone want to chip in some boozeFUL cold remedies for comparison? When I worked at a liquor store my coworkers swore by the tried and true method of half a pint of Old Granddad 100-proof whiskey, curling up under a blanket, and "sweating it out."

Yup, good scotch; freshly squeezed lemon juice; plenty of sugar and boiling, boiling water, and then a duvet, bed, and a good book. Flu is great, who wants to go to work anyway?

 

[zhao]

Hey, don't get testy! If you're going to try to tell people that basic biochemistry is "false", be prepared to be laughed at.

are you having problems seeing?
that's not the part that is false. the part that is false is using chemical reactions to explain away my actually increased physical energy levels during the fast.

What exactly does "mixed for absorption" mean? These are things that I can't help but wonder..

i meant that the ingredients of the herbal supplement i take are designed and mixed for maximum absorption by the human body. let me know if you want a more thorough explanation.

If your herbal remedies work for you, that's fine, but never underestimate the power of the placebo.

you don't know jack shit about what my experiences with the 1.5 month fast and with these herbal supplements, and there is nothing to back up your calling it "placebo effect". you are speaking from biggotry, ignorance, and an inability to process new information, and nothing else.

 

[nomadologist]

Are you having problems seeing? The calorie is a unit of energy. A steak has more calories in it than a plate of greens. Therefore, it provides more energy. This energy is easily quantifiable and years and years of clinical trials would bear it out.

Are you having problems seeing? I brought up the fact that fasting has effects on many influential chemicals that act on your mood as a partial and obviously speculative explanation for why someone who is on an entirely liquid diet would feel more energy. Anybody who suddenly stops eating and eats below their normal calorie intake might feel that way.

Yes, it's "bigotry" . That's it.

Make sure you get angry at the thought that other people disagree with your approach to health, that is surely healthy.

 

[mistersloane]

Yr inbox is totally full nomad. I didn't realise til yesterday that it keeps all yr sent messages as well, and you can delete them...

 

[mistersloane]

and oh GOD zhao I don't believe you just posted that Lamonte Young thing on yr blog, how fucking amazing thangyouthangyouthangyou

 

[nomadologist]

ooops i never check the email associated with this account, is the real problem

 

[zhao]

The calorie is a unit of energy. A steak has more calories in it than a plate of greens. Therefore, it provides more energy. This energy is easily quantifiable and years and years of clinical trials would bear it out.

how the human body "translates" or absorbs or is able to use these calaries is entirely different from how many calaries are contained in a certain food. battery acid also contains energy, but your body cannot use it if you drink it.

I brought up the fact that fasting has effects on many influential chemicals that act on your mood as a partial and obviously speculative explanation for why someone who is on an entirely liquid diet would feel more energy. Anybody who suddenly stops eating and eats below their normal calorie intake might feel that way.

i understand that. and it surely can be a part of it. but i am saying that the increased actual energy level beyond your explanation was undeniable.

cross my heart hope to die - if i had a reason for lying about this i don't know what it might be:

i had much more, and longer lasting, physical (and mental) energy while fasting than when i am eating.

i guess the bottom line is that the above is near or completely impossible for people to process and believe.

Make sure you get angry at the thought that other people disagree with your approach to health, that is surely healthy.

you are groundlessly invalidating what i have gained from experience, and denying things i know about from experience, based on deep seated prejudices and common stereotypes. and continue to use condescending language to mock and ridicule. this is why I was a bit annoyed. and not because anyone disagrees with my approach.

 

[nomadologist]

cross my heart hope to die - if i had a reason for lying about this i don't know what it might be:

i had much more, and longer lasting, physical (and mental) energy while fasting than when i am eating.

i guess the bottom line is that the above is near or completely impossible for people to process and believe.




you are groundlessly invalidating what i have gained from experience, and denying things i know about from experience, based on deep seated prejudices and common stereotypes. and continue to use condescending language to mock and ridicule. this is why I was a bit annoyed. and not because anyone disagrees with my approach.

First, are you reading what I actually said about fasting? What I said actually CONFIRMS your anecdotal experience, rather than denying it.

Second, I am not groundlessly invalidating anything based on "stereotypes" or "prejudices", I am disagreeing with the idea that homeopathy is scientifically legitimate.

 

[zhao]

and oh GOD zhao I don't believe you just posted that Lamonte Young thing on yr blog, how fucking amazing thangyouthangyouthangyou

hey nice! my mp3s of that were in the lost i-pod. my blogmate tom... the force is strong in that one.

 

[zhao]

First, are you reading what I actually said about fasting? What I said actually CONFIRMS your anecdotal experience, rather than denying it.

no.

1. you have been trying to explain my increased energy levels during the fast through a chemically induced sense of ellation or euphoria, thus denying A. that i had ACTUAL higher levels of energy and B. that this is caused by avoiding solid food.

2. you have been trying to dismiss the benefits i receive from herbal supplements with "placebo effect". which is groundless.

3. you have been insinuating that i pay a bullshitter $500 per week to receive bullshit. which is A. false, B. fabricated, C. intended to redicule, mock, and discredit, and D. entirely the product of your prejudices and stereotypical thinking.

Second, I am not groundlessly invalidating anything based on "stereotypes" or "prejudices", I am disagreeing with the idea that homeopathy is scientifically legitimate.

who said anything about homeopathy?

all i know is what i know from direct personal experience -- which just so happened to confirm a lot of things i used to think is "new age bullshit" (just like you).

tell you the truth, when i went on the fast i didn't believe what my ex was telling me -- which is basically everything i've been saying in this thread. it was more or less to impress her because she was doing it. but my exprience during the fast drastically altered my previous beliefs which i now know is based on commonly accepted false information.

 

[noel emits]

To measure the calories in a food item you would have first put it through a calorimeter and then subtract the calorific value of the resulting excreta.

 

[Immryr]

if your super fasting gives you so much long lasting energy and doesnt do any harm to your body, why did you stop after a month and a half?? surely you would want to continue this miracle??

 

[zhao]

if your super fasting gives you so much long lasting energy and doesnt do any harm to your body, why did you stop after a month and a half?? surely you would want to continue this miracle??

because i was losing weight. i got down to my optimum weight, and stopped. was about 15 or 20 over before, and a month and a half took that much off.