Cancellations

[catalog]

(edit:in reply to padraig) I mean, I agree with you, I feel like I said the same thing 5 mins ago but you shot me down.

 

[catalog]

Also padraig, I wrote a reply to your question from the other day, about how cancel culture is damaging to minority culture, but I think you missed it cos things went a bit quick. And there again, what I said is not so different from what you have said about women and non white filmmakers not having space.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

its always been expensive

it is probably true that the more an art form is tied to financing (and thus more centralized) the less open it is to people with less cultural capital

but also, the argument wasn't that it's impossible for women/queer/POC to be transgressive, just that it's more difficult by x amount

in music specifically the transgressive element is more male-dominated than white-dominated (this idea is not original to me, I'm sure)

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

I feel like I said the same thing 5 mins ago but you shot me down

sure, alright

 

[catalog]

What's up with you, I feel like you are jumping down my throat a lot, but I dunno if that's just how you are

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

you said some objectionable things. I don't know you the way I do the old heads who I've known for, unbelievably, over a decade at this point.

but I'm happy to give you the benefit of the doubt

this pretty basic cultural/queer/gender studies stuff (which doesn't make it automatically right) but idk how familiar everyone is with that

back when, this place had a lot of people with crit theory type backgrounds - more than me, definitely - may not be as much the case now

which isn't necessarily worse, just different

 

[catalog]

What did I say that was objectionable? But OK, that explains something, you seem to have a gun for me and I'm not quite sure why

 

[craner]

I read Gender Trouble and Bodies That Matter back in the 1990s and it is really interesting, in a good and bad way, to watch the theoretical implications of those texts play in the real world now.

 

[catalog]

When I was at uni (2000) butler was always being talked about, by ppl on different courses, but I never read her

 

[luka]

I read Gender Trouble and Bodies That Matter back in the 1990s and it is really interesting, in a good and bad way, to watch the theoretical implications of those texts play in the real world now.

ive not heard of those books. what are the theoretical implications of those texts? catalog, we just need to nudge you into being less glib the you'll wind padraig up less. commit a bit. your tone is always very facetious. we just need to tweak it a bit. make you into a serious person.

 

[catalog]

Actually someone I used to work with used to tell me that I laughed too much

 

[luka]

well we cant hear you laughing so dont worry too much about that

 

[catalog]

OK well thanks luka I will try to work on my facetiousness but it might be too late for me

 

[luka]

no way. its definitely not too late.

 

[craner]

ive not heard of those books. what are the theoretical implications of those texts? catalog, we just need to nudge you into being less glib the you'll wind padraig up less. commit a bit. your tone is always very facetious. we just need to tweak it a bit. make you into a serious person.

Gender is performative.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

it is really interesting, in a good and bad way, to watch the theoretical implications of those texts play in the real world now

definitely, and whatever the pioneering works - idk, but they must exist - that dealt with race as social construct. related, Achebe, Said, etc in postcolonialism.

it's something I've been thinking much about lately - well always but especially lately - the logical conclusions of following these things thru

in a similar way to "God is dead" being a logical conclusion of the Enlightenment

in all these cases I think we must inevitably take the bad with the good

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Gender is performative

yes, and a construct

she wasn't the first - she's following De Beauvoir and others - but she codified a great deal of and was massively influential on gender and queer theory

 

[version]

I've been campaigning to get Mock the Week off our screens for years. Perhaps the end is finally in sight.

aka Mock the Weak.

 

[craner]

Mr Tea could go on Mock the Week with his Saussure pun and it would literally be the funniest and most spontaneous thing anybody has ever said on its entire, never-ending, dismal, inexplicable series run.

 

[version]

re: Tarantino - This is excruciating. What is he doing?!