version

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Some really unpleasant stuff on Twitter last night. The people using slurs get flagged and reported pretty quickly, but I saw some other people posting pictures of Chiellini fouling Saka and Sterling and referring to it as "buck breaking". They were also claiming the loss was down to Southgate trying to make a political statement by choosing Rashford, Saka and Sancho in the shootout and were all supporting Italy and banging on about Caesar and race wars and ethnostates and all that.
 

version

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It's really fucking grim. It isn't just England fans either. Apparently a bunch of the abuse on Instagram's coming from other countries too.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Add a mountain of hype. A big fuck off continental shelf of hype

If England had won it would have been pissed up Lions doing the okie-cokie til the wee small hours and a media mood reflective of that. Instead it’s a galactic comedown with all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatching out. Cunts are going to be cunts

Congrats to Italy. They submission-held Spain, then England, except all the focus is away from that so it’s snack time

 

luka

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It's really fucking grim. It isn't just England fans either. Apparently a bunch of the abuse on Instagram's coming from other countries too.
because these are the organised tactics of an international white power movement amplifed by social media
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Does feel like a particularly glaring and gruesome collision of how a probably quite small part of England would like to see itself with how a probably quite large part of England actually is.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Like when Trump got elected kinda. Last night I was deludedly thinking "they lost but they did really well, I think the country will unite in not condemning them for missing those penalties" – the liberal fantasist who doesn't know what's going on out there.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
yeah I'm going fucking crazy today from lack of sleep

I'm imagining hordes of racists marauding through the streets outside
 

luka

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what football does is it rubs our face in our own impotence our complete inability to influence events. even if we sing
very loud.
 

luka

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the racism is upsetting but you only hear about it becasue social media amplifies it. social media exists to amplify
racism. otherwise im very interested in the rituals of self abasement that surround the football.
the images of leicester sqaure. i dont think its abnormal. i think its a necessary part of human life
at least for us, unhappy, dissatisfied, thwarted people. but its exotic.
 

luka

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the hashtag is #disgracful which im not sure it is. its weird. its really strange. but its human. i often wake
up to find my flat strewn with fag butts and crisps. and i cant usually be bothered to feel ashamed.
 

luka

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english people are incapable of feeling pleasure. and that is unfortunate for us. its a cross we bear
but what takes the place of pleasure are very strange psycho-social rituals of self abasement
 

Simon silverdollarcircle

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Do we feel pain though? When I went out this afternoon everyone was just happily getting on with the day. The way that the media is reporting this, and previous, times England have lost at football it's presented as this life and death thing when we should be in national mourning or something right now. But, a handle of fanatics aside, hardly anyone really gives a much of a shit do they? It's just like oh that's a bit of a shame, now lets look at some memes/go on tinder / think about hungover I am. Life moves on as if it never really happened
 

luka

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there were a famous set of photos by a polish photographer in cardiff where people were wallowing in filth
eating kebabs with people pissing 30 centimeters away etc the italians of course dont do this, and i think
it is because they are capable of experiencing pleasure. we cant. i dont know why and i dont have a theory.
 

luka

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Do we feel pain though? When I went out this afternoon everyone was just happily getting on with the day. The way that the media is reporting this, and previous, times England have lost at football it's presented as this life and death thing when we should be in national mourning or something right now. But, a handle of fanatics aside, hardly anyone really gives a much of a shit do they? It's just like oh that's a bit of a shame, now lets look at some memes/go on tinder / think about hungover I am. Life moves on as if it never really happened
i dont know. i was out drinking today and it felt to me, and perhaps i was projecting, that the country was experiencing a chastening
sense of shame. it was very very quiet. i was doing a pub crawl by myself and there was a very strange and subdued atmosphere.
do you want to come round simon? ive got a bottle of bourbon and some oven chips
 
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