luka

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reminds me of that thing the nzis say about the jews if you want to know whos in control ask who it is you cant criticise
 

shakahislop

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The whole thread is pretty crazy but at least 50% right I think?
it's a good example of something that i've been slowly turning over in my brain for a while. this thing of people engaging with what is basically social theory (as opposed to like, Social Theory), drawing insights, articulating the mechanics of how bits and pieces of culture work, and how weirdly popular that is. how empowering these insights can be. but also doing it while clearly never having studied it formally, not even at undergraduate or whatever; and obviously the audiences generally haven't either.

and then as in this case, mixing those insights in with total utter bullshit
 

shakahislop

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you just think you're brother is an idiot. youve told us this before.
well he's not an idiot. he's thinking things through the same as everyone else. and he has that curiosity about the world. but this kind of thing is his source of information. and its well done obviously. whereas, all things considered, its a shame that he hasn't had the opportunity (and i mean that seriously, he never had the chance) to get stuck into foucault or whatever. or even you know. basic things about evidence and scientific method.
 

sus

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it's a good example of something that i've been slowly turning over in my brain for a while. this thing of people engaging with what is basically social theory (as opposed to like, Social Theory), drawing insights, articulating the mechanics of how bits and pieces of culture work, and how weirdly popular that is. how empowering these insights can be. but also doing it while clearly never having studied it formally, not even at undergraduate or whatever; and obviously the audiences generally haven't either.

and then as in this case, mixing those insights in with total utter bullshit
I wouldn't say formal background lessens the bullshit factor, to be fair. Indeed, it may worsen it
 

linebaugh

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all poor kids say the n word regardless of race and everyone is ok with it is what I learned from teaching yes.
 

sus

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whereas from my bro he'll hear the term 'cultural marxism' and think that it's actually a thing
It's a silly name but is there an ideology of the left fostered in universities that is vaguely PoMo and Marxism indebted and believes deeply illiberal things yes

Would Marx and Foucault roll in their graves if they knew their legacy in this ideology also yes
 

luka

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i dont know. i cant decide if anything matters or not really. like, he can join dissensus and Stan can talk at him about virtual reality self-optimising cryptocoins but is it going to make him happier? you feel sad for him cos your horizons are broader but thats just the way it works out with siblings a lot of the time
 
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shakahislop

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It's a silly name but is there an ideology of the left fostered in universities that is vaguely PoMo and Marxism indebted and believes deeply illiberal things yes

Would Marx and Foucault roll in their graves if they knew their legacy in this ideology also yes
i mean i don't know where the term comes from, and i've got no evidence for this, but i feel pretty sure that the 'marxism' bit is just in there (or has been transmitted in a memetic sense) because it sounds like communism to a lot of people
 
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