The Queen is Dead!

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luka said:
this is the point im making. in the old days there would have been. it would have mattered and meant something. now it doesnt.
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your point is totally moron foolish idiot.

Just because something doesn't mean anything doesn't mean it doesn't chime into and ideologically legitimate something that does have meaning. This is what Zizek was saying all along. Ideology cloakes itself in the non-ideological.

Wipe your piss stained trousers.
 
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WashYourHands said:
Performative practice, withering agency, a bleached out flag

Pageantry, manners, polite England, tea and scones, hampers, champers, perfidious ice cream
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bacon, smelly socks, traipsing around the house in shoes, refusing to shave your pubic hairs before sex, washing dishes in a sink of water instead of scrubbing them down like a labour of love.

This is England.

Smelly pubs, bartenders who don't know how to put on cologne, this is England.

Ibrocks, Stamford Bridge, blm marxist woke agenda, satanic child rings yet we don't like andrew, as if that matters, this is England.

Rod Stewart, sex Pistols, The Beatles minage a trois, this is England.

germanophobia, hatred for real proper acid, and instead danny rampling shoom guff, this is England.
 
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luka said:
so the meaning of the displays are not completely clear. they dont signify, in a transparent sense, nationalism and love of royalty, nor do they signal a sneering ironic subversion but something else, more obscure and difficult to define. the 2012 olympics being part of this shift but not having caused it
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those things belong to a political world whose signals have gone out of circulation. they are no longer currency, there is no positive or negative charge - no message besides the reference to the period, just like a 50s movie poster or something
 
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thirdform said:
your point is totally moron foolish idiot.

Just because something doesn't mean anything doesn't mean it doesn't chime into and ideologically legitimate something that does have meaning. This is what Zizek was saying all along. Ideology cloakes itself in the non-ideological.

Wipe your piss stained trousers.
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of course it is significant whether or not there is zeal behind a communication or not

ideology is not some alien force that lives on in the vessels of cultural detritus independent of human interest
 
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maxi said:
some people might just like bank holidays, parties, celebrating any arbitrary thing. the bunting could be any colour but this time just happens to have a union jack pattern on it. the queen is like a mascot for the party
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Brits do not party. how many bloody times we have to tell you this. You have to give them 3000 pills before they can even begin to dance. African and Asian dads are ballin' whereas Brits just think by decking everything out it makes a party. That's not a real party.

This is a fucking party. add machine guns and some accidental murders and loads of hashish into the mix.

 
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entertainment said:
of course it is significant whether or not there is zeal behind a communication or not

ideology is not some alien force that lives on in the vessels of cultural detritus independent of human interest
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No, and this is why you are entirely wrong. Ideology is something we all engage in. Ideology is not a set of ideas or a mere byproduct of domination. It is the ideas we have about the world that we live in that we produce and reproduce. There are leftist and right ideologies, and cardboard cut out Marxist ideologies and even apolitical ideologies. The aim is to penetrate in the psychoanalytic sense. To understand the oedipal complex that undergirds all ideologies. Luke's statement is entirely ideological, that it doesn't matter. That's the point. It doesn't matter is an ideology within itself. Luke is being entirely dull and uninteresting.
 
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Entertainment you must desire the dark God of jouissance and embrace your complexes. Only then can you begin to be systematic.

 
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the surgeon does not put down the knife when he draws blood, and neither should you. You must pursue your goal headstrong. Complacency is the most ideological trait of the 2020s.
 
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you must embrace that constitution in yourself. What ifI end up frightening myself? What about if I go too far and I become a psychotic who will never recover. Acid cannot do this fully. You have to gnostically discipline yourself and filter out the most immediate manifestations of public appearance. You will never achieve such a level of understanding if you constantly resort to a demo-populist explanation.

Osama bin Laden was somewhat right when he declared fun to be haram. Only those of advanced knowledge know how to truly break the rules and have fun. Of course, where our old boy was wrong is he blamed muslims for this decline. When in fact it is your average flag shagger who is at the most filthy animalistic level and has not attained the cosmic clarity. It is no coincidence that many royalists will be having golden shower encounters this weekend.
 
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real fun does not last for three or four days. It becomes the motive, ones life goal. This cannot be decided by bank holiday fiat.
 
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thirdform said:
No, and this is why you are entirely wrong. Ideology is something we all engage in. Ideology is not a set of ideas or a mere byproduct of domination. It is the ideas we have about the world that we live in that we produce and reproduce. There are leftist and right ideologies, and cardboard cut out Marxist ideologies and even apolitical ideologies. The aim is to penetrate in the psychoanalytic sense. To understand the oedipal complex that undergirds all ideologies. Luke's statement is entirely ideological, that it doesn't matter. That's the point. It doesn't matter is an ideology within itself. Luke is being entirely dull and uninteresting.
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i don't have anything against being suspicuous about unconscious ideology or how it's lodged in communications and images but this is the about regalia and union jack and that stuff isn't it? straightforward signifiers of nationalism. no deeper stratums at work here. it's not really interesting to go into interpretations of how the queen represent nationalism. what is interesting is the degree to which they have lost their potency. of course it's still steeped in ideology. but on some level people have stopped caring. that is an observation worth making.

in the same sense that viking nerds don't really want to rape and pillage or some military history nerd with nazi helmets hung on the wall isn't going out marching. the degree to which things lose their currency in the cultural communication.
 
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entertainment said:
i don't have anything against being suspicuous about unconscious ideology or how it's lodged in communications and images but this is the about regalia and union jack and that stuff isn't it? straightforward signifiers of nationalism. no deeper stratums at work here. it's not really interesting to go into interpretations of how the queen represent nationalism. what is interesting is the degree to which they have lost their potency. of course it's still steeped in ideology. but on some level people have stopped caring. that is an observation worth making.
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Those who helped orchestrate Stalin's campaign of mass terror were the first to dissociate from him. The fact that the queen has lost her potency and she is not reviled precisely illustrates the more subtle form of dominance of the cult of personality. Lizzy was much more successful in a way which uncle Joe was not, and that should frighten you. The ideal outcome would be her to be as much potent as the 1970s, but completely utterly inverted, despised with all our might. Luke has turned into the Nietzschean last man, the enemy of the overman he wants to become. Content to potter away. Completely passive. Sad, very sad.
 
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More and more I am becoming sympathetic to k-punks anti-skunk tirades, just not so much on a political level. Until anglos commit assassinations after ingesting 10 grams of hashish dissolved in yogurt perhaps we can talk.
 
WashYourHands

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can’t imagine London today and into the weekend, pockets of the every day mixed in with epic, roided-up levels of surrealism

it’s not just decorative spectacles, the people’s parade post-military bs was like rats clinging to a sinking ship, they’d be the first to go driving over them in tanks, squish, pop, let off a few rounds hordes screaming into bottle necks mowing each section down

sorry, got a bit into it there
 
luka

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thirdform said:
your point is totally moron foolish idiot.

Just because something doesn't mean anything doesn't mean it doesn't chime into and ideologically legitimate something that does have meaning. This is what Zizek was saying all along. Ideology cloakes itself in the non-ideological.

Wipe your piss stained trousers.
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youre a fucking idiot im going to burn your house down you nobhead
 
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