Wuhan Killer Sneeze (thanks Tea)
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Been reading into that M&S outbreak in Northampton. Really weird area for it- 11 new outbreaks in care homes over the last month, first positive case at the factory is May 4th but it peaks less than 2 weeks ago. Following that they hold a press conference on Friday where the director of public health says Greencore were completely "covid-compliant" and blames the outbreak on people socialising outside of work.
213 "asymptomatic" among the 292 cases found in the factory. Or, 210 (rounded down) if you want to split hairs.
A big employer for the area, 3000 staff. Wonder where the meat is coming from.
213 "asymptomatic" among the 292 cases found in the factory. Or, 210 (rounded down) if you want to split hairs.
A big employer for the area, 3000 staff. Wonder where the meat is coming from.
Leo
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if the Russian vaccine doesn't save us, there's always the thing being pushed by the MyPillow.com guy...
Trump eyes new unproven coronavirus "cure"
Trump eyes new unproven coronavirus "cure"
Mr. Tea
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Let's just go back to the original claim here, that these localised outbreaks aren't real at all, but are merely the consequence of a non-zero false positive rate and increased testing (for unexplained reasons) in a handful of northern towns and cities. Suppose the FPR is 1% - I have no idea whether this is accurate, but let's say it is - and that this is consistent across all the batches of test material being used in the country. Now obviously you aren't going to declare a new outbreak based purely on the number of positive test results in a given area, because that depends entirely on how many tests have been done. You know that if you test ten times as many people, you're going to get ten times as many positive results, for a given true infection rate plus a given FPR.
I refuse to believe that even Matt Hancock is too stupid to realise this. (Chris Grayling would be a different matter.)
WashYourHands
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If Covid had an actual face it’d be Chris Grayling’s.
mixed_biscuits
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It's not stupidity, no...you have any idea what they're playing at?
Mr. Tea
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Well are you going to be coy or are you going to tell us what the big secret plan is?
slackk
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Scientists See Signs of Lasting Immunity to Covid-19, Even After Mild Infections (Published 2020)
New research indicates that human immune system cells are storing information about the coronavirus so they can fight it off again.
mixed_biscuits
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I think the likeliest explanation is that they're trying to fashion a narrative that implies that they have been in control of the virus rather than flailing about, panic-stricken, while the virus does whatever it was going to do anyway.
vimothy
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yeah but you can't infer those assumptions out of a false positive rate - how accurate is the test (specifically how "sensitive" - i.e., what is the ratio of true positives to positives)? that would tell you how many ppl who tested positive have it. I doubt anyone thinks that number is 0
mixed_biscuits
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Median false-positive rate of 2.3% in July.
mixed_biscuits
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No, but it does mean that it could be the case that all are false.
IdleRich
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No but it does mean that the number of positives is the same as the expected number of false positives.
This sounds plausible to me. So this would basically mean that there is a (racist) assumption at the heart of the decision making. And they've maybe picked some northern towns as places where local lockdown needs to happen, cos there's an assumption about spread in non-White and poor areas. But they cannot really blatantly say that. So it's up to some whistle blower to actually reveal it. Unless it's not what's happening at all
Mr. Tea
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Well they've fucked that up good and proper, haven't they?
I mean, I agree with you about the flailing. Obviously I don't agree that "the virus does whatever it was going to do anyway", because that leaves the vastly different rates of both infection and death between different countries completely unexplained.
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That's what Matthew Syed in his Times article said was the unstateable reason for those lockdowns: a preventative measure.
I think the local lockdowns have been more about the narrative: the govt can't take their foot off the brake completely and have the death rate carry on petering away along the same curve as it wouldn't make sense given their reasons for earlier interventions, so they do things gradatim or by give-and-take eg. we'll let you shop but you have to wear a mask
I think the local lockdowns have been more about the narrative: the govt can't take their foot off the brake completely and have the death rate carry on petering away along the same curve as it wouldn't make sense given their reasons for earlier interventions, so they do things gradatim or by give-and-take eg. we'll let you shop but you have to wear a mask
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