Keir Starmer

[subvert47]

Subvert's going to be gutted.

Nah, it's good news to wake up to . And it seems like George Galloway's intervention actually helped Labour, in that disgruntled constituents voted for him rather than the Tories. That's worth a 😄 anyway.

 

[craner]

Like Bibi, I see George is going to give the Trump strategy a go:

 

[subvert47]

He's such a dickhead.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I don't think Labour conducted themselves very well in their campaign either judging by that anti-Indian leaflet they put out.

Eh, hadn't heard about that - doesn't sound great. Was it anti-Indian-government (which is fair enough, it's pretty terrible), or anti-India in general, or anti-British-Indian-people?

 

[subvert47]

 

[craner]

Eh, hadn't heard about that - doesn't sound great. Was it anti-Indian-government (which is fair enough, it's pretty terrible), or anti-India in general, or anti-British-Indian-people?

Well it was a bit more nuanced than that, but that actually makes it worse: it was anti-Hindu!

Basically a picture of Johnson shaking hands with Modi beneath the message: “Don’t risk a Tory who is not on your side”.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Well it was a bit more nuanced than that, but that actually makes it worse: it was anti-Hindu!

Basically a picture of Johnson shaking hands with Modi beneath the message: “Don’t risk a Tory who is not on your side”.

Ugh, that's exactly the sort of shit Galloway's been pulling for years.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I'm glad there's finally something we can all agree on!

 

[craner]

Ugh, that's exactly the sort of shit Galloway's been pulling for years.

There’s nothing he likes more than a secular female candidate to take on in a constituency with a significant Muslim community.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I suppose that in a very blunt and literal sort of way, it's fair to say that Modi is not "on the side of" Muslims, whether in India, the UK or anywhere else, because he's a notorious anti-Muslim bigot. But at the very least, it's tone deaf not to consider how that sort of message is going to come across among Muslim and Hindu diaspora communities.

 

[craner]

It's not tone deaf, it's purposefully mendacious and cynical.

 

[Mr. Tea]

It's not tone deaf, it's purposefully mendacious and cynical.

You're right, I was being much too generous with that phrase.

 

[sufi]

strange to see the dynastic element at play - Jo Cox's husband got himself cancelled because of work shenanigans, so along comes her sister, possibly lack of political career was an advantage, but generally dynasties in politics are kind of electioneering gimmickry that works out badly in the longer term

 

[craner]

They had to waive a fairly basic rule in order to get her in there.

 

[DannyL]

They had to waive a fairly basic rule in order to get her in there.

What was that?

I'd read putting her in pissed off some local Asian activists who thought they'd be in with a shout.

 

[craner]

She joined the party just before the election and you are normally supposed to be a member for at least a year before being allowed to stand as a candidate.

 

[WashYourHands]

 

[WashYourHands]

Rhetorical question - did they make him play in goal

 

[subvert47]

"The risks to the Labour party of being so empty have been much discussed. But it is high time we also considered the risks to the rest of us of having an opposition that won’t oppose those who aim to destructively remake British society; of having the main progressive political party in this country pandering to the worst kind of regressive politics. The failures we see notched up daily by Starmer’s team aren’t just political: they are moral."

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...er-labour-muslim-voters-red-wall-islamophobia

 

[Mr. Tea]

"The risks to the Labour party of being so empty have been much discussed. But it is high time we also considered the risks to the rest of us of having an opposition that won’t oppose those who aim to destructively remake British society; of having the main progressive political party in this country pandering to the worst kind of regressive politics. The failures we see notched up daily by Starmer’s team aren’t just political: they are moral."

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...er-labour-muslim-voters-red-wall-islamophobia

Is it really controversial to suggest that a lot of Muslims aren't all that keen on Jews, though? And would the Guardian be wringing its hands in this way if anyone had suggested that a lot of Jews aren't too keen on Muslims, or that a lot of non-Jewish white people aren't that keen on Jews or Jews, both of which are true?