George Floyd

[padraig (u.s.)]

I would be curious your thoughts on neoliberalism

an unmitigated disaster, ideologically unsound to begin with and then exacerbated by towering hubris

 

[sus]

ok we know but

what did it look like? how did you see things change? what changed around you?

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Never forget who helped send us to Iraq

of course. @Linebaugh is absolutely correct that the NYT etc are part of those networks.

like I said, it was always part of manufacturing consent to me

 

[luka]

have you read our neoliberalism thread?

 

[luka]

It's about the nostalgia you twenty somethings have for it which is weird to those of us who are a bit older,for whom it was the kingdom of Satan

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

what did it look like? how did you see things change? what changed around you?

well, let's see. a fucking ton of stuff got privatized, and correspondingly the idea of the common good was hugely degraded.

liberals embraced the free market as supreme arbiter, far more unanimously and vociferously than they ever had before

the Democratic Party and liberals in general completely abandoned working-class people and issues

all of which has come home to roost over the last decade plus in massively negative ways

 

[linebaugh]

It's about the nostalgia you twenty somethings have for it which is weird to those of us who are a bit older,for whom it was the kingdom of Satan

knowledge about neoliberalism is like a 20 something party trick though. It oohs and awes. Same goes for fascism. The neo liberal nostalgia clique is a different breed of twenty somethings.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

and to top it off, they were just as happy to wage imperialistic warfare as the conservatives ever had been

 

[WashYourHands]

Consensus stability at home, while other nations burn, come full circle.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

not that Kennedy and LBJ weren't, but at least LBJ forced through the Great Society too

or as much it as wasn't sucked up into the disaster of Vietnam, anyway

 

[luka]

Consensus stability at home, while other nations burn, come full circle.

Is that from a fortune cookie?

 

[constant escape]

Nostalgia for neoliberalism? What?

 

[luka]

Nostalgia for neoliberalism? What?

Before the Americans our young boy was called Barty and he was a passionate believer in neoliberalism. Tony Blair was his hero.

 

[sus]

how do people not burn out into misanthropy?

This forum seems like it'd be rife em, but the presence is less than expected

 

[WashYourHands]

Is that from a fortune cookie?

I'd do orrid things for a packet of Ginger Nuts.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

neoliberals didn't even have the decency to care for their own fucking constituents

then they were surprised when those constituents abandoned them en masse in favor of the worst Presidential administration in American history

 

[luka]

how do people not burn out into misanthropy?

This forum seems like it'd be rife em, but the presence is less than expected

We all take loads of acids and that. Keeps us young and optimistic

 

[luka]

Nostalgia for neoliberalism? What?

The Good Old Days of Neoliberalism.

A few days ago I said it was odd for Barty, a 24 year old, to identify so strongly as New Labour. It's a core part of his identity. He's as passionate about it as third is about Kommunism. But once I'd said it I starting thinking, well Barty was born into this world Celebrate Life and he...

www.dissensus.com

 

[linebaugh]

Nostalgia for neoliberalism? What?

cereal boxes, the west wing, crime exclusively drugs and gangs, soft ball social rights accomplishments

 

[version]

Apparently Jacob Blake - the man who was shot - is now paralyzed from the waist down.