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Lines Composed a Few Miles above Tintern Abbey, On Revisiting the Banks of the Wye during a Tour. July 13, 1798​

BY WILLIAM WORDSWORTH
Five years have past; five summers, with the length
Of five long winters! and again I hear
These waters, rolling from their mountain-springs
With a soft inland murmur.—Once again
Do I behold these steep and lofty cliffs,
That on a wild secluded scene impress
Thoughts of more deep seclusion; and connect
The landscape with the quiet of the sky.
The day is come when I again repose
Here, under this dark sycamore, and view
These plots of cottage-ground, these orchard-tufts,
Which at this season, with their unripe fruits,
Are clad in one green hue, and lose themselves
'Mid groves and copses. Once again I see
These hedge-rows, hardly hedge-rows, little lines
Of sportive wood run wild: these pastoral farms,
Green to the very door; and wreaths of smoke
Sent up, in silence, from among the trees!
With some uncertain notice, as might seem
Of vagrant dwellers in the houseless woods,
Or of some Hermit's cave, where by his fire
The Hermit sits alone.

These beauteous forms,
Through a long absence, have not been to me
As is a landscape to a blind man's eye:
But oft, in lonely rooms, and 'mid the din
Of towns and cities, I have owed to them,
In hours of weariness, sensations sweet,
Felt in the blood, and felt along the heart;
And passing even into my purer mind
With tranquil restoration:—feelings too
Of unremembered pleasure: such, perhaps,
As have no slight or trivial influence
On that best portion of a good man's life,
His little, nameless, unremembered, acts
Of kindness and of love. Nor less, I trust,
To them I may have owed another gift,
Of aspect more sublime; that blessed mood,
In which the burthen of the mystery,
In which the heavy and the weary weight
Of all this unintelligible world,
Is lightened:—that serene and blessed mood,
In which the affections gently lead us on,—
Until, the breath of this corporeal frame
And even the motion of our human blood
Almost suspended, we are laid asleep
In body, and become a living soul:
While with an eye made quiet by the power
Of harmony, and the deep power of joy,
We see into the life of things.

If this
Be but a vain belief, yet, oh! how oft—
In darkness and amid the many shapes
Of joyless daylight; when the fretful stir
Unprofitable, and the fever of the world,
Have hung upon the beatings of my heart—
How oft, in spirit, have I turned to thee,
O sylvan Wye! thou wanderer thro' the woods,
How often has my spirit turned to thee!

And now, with gleams of half-extinguished thought,
With many recognitions dim and faint,
And somewhat of a sad perplexity,
The picture of the mind revives again:
While here I stand, not only with the sense
Of present pleasure, but with pleasing thoughts
That in this moment there is life and food
For future years. And so I dare to hope,
Though changed, no doubt, from what I was when first
I came among these hills; when like a roe
I bounded o'er the mountains, by the sides
Of the deep rivers, and the lonely streams,
Wherever nature led: more like a man
Flying from something that he dreads, than one
Who sought the thing he loved. For nature then
(The coarser pleasures of my boyish days
And their glad animal movements all gone by)
To me was all in all.—I cannot paint
What then I was. The sounding cataract
Haunted me like a passion: the tall rock,
The mountain, and the deep and gloomy wood,
Their colours and their forms, were then to me
An appetite; a feeling and a love,
That had no need of a remoter charm,
By thought supplied, nor any interest
Unborrowed from the eye.—That time is past,
And all its aching joys are now no more,
And all its dizzy raptures. Not for this
Faint I, nor mourn nor murmur; other gifts
Have followed; for such loss, I would believe,
Abundant recompense. For I have learned
To look on nature, not as in the hour
Of thoughtless youth; but hearing oftentimes
The still sad music of humanity,
Nor harsh nor grating, though of ample power
To chasten and subdue.—And I have felt
A presence that disturbs me with the joy
Of elevated thoughts; a sense sublime
Of something far more deeply interfused,
Whose dwelling is the light of setting suns,
And the round ocean and the living air,
And the blue sky, and in the mind of man:
A motion and a spirit, that impels
All thinking things, all objects of all thought,
And rolls through all things. Therefore am I still
A lover of the meadows and the woods
And mountains; and of all that we behold
From this green earth; of all the mighty world
Of eye, and ear,—both what they half create,
And what perceive; well pleased to recognise
In nature and the language of the sense
The anchor of my purest thoughts, the nurse,
The guide, the guardian of my heart, and soul
Of all my moral being.

Nor perchance,
If I were not thus taught, should I the more
Suffer my genial spirits to decay:
For thou art with me here upon the banks
Of this fair river; thou my dearest Friend,
My dear, dear Friend; and in thy voice I catch
The language of my former heart, and read
My former pleasures in the shooting lights
Of thy wild eyes. Oh! yet a little while
May I behold in thee what I was once,
My dear, dear Sister! and this prayer I make,
Knowing that Nature never did betray
The heart that loved her; 'tis her privilege,
Through all the years of this our life, to lead
From joy to joy: for she can so inform
The mind that is within us, so impress
With quietness and beauty, and so feed
With lofty thoughts, that neither evil tongues,
Rash judgments, nor the sneers of selfish men,
Nor greetings where no kindness is, nor all
The dreary intercourse of daily life,
Shall e'er prevail against us, or disturb
Our cheerful faith, that all which we behold
Is full of blessings. Therefore let the moon
Shine on thee in thy solitary walk;
And let the misty mountain-winds be free
To blow against thee: and, in after years,
When these wild ecstasies shall be matured
Into a sober pleasure; when thy mind
Shall be a mansion for all lovely forms,
Thy memory be as a dwelling-place
For all sweet sounds and harmonies; oh! then,
If solitude, or fear, or pain, or grief,
Should be thy portion, with what healing thoughts
Of tender joy wilt thou remember me,
And these my exhortations! Nor, perchance—
If I should be where I no more can hear
Thy voice, nor catch from thy wild eyes these gleams
Of past existence—wilt thou then forget
That on the banks of this delightful stream
We stood together; and that I, so long
A worshipper of Nature, hither came
Unwearied in that service: rather say
With warmer love—oh! with far deeper zeal
Of holier love. Nor wilt thou then forget,
That after many wanderings, many years
Of absence, these steep woods and lofty cliffs,
And this green pastoral landscape, were to me
More dear, both for themselves and for thy sake!
 

catalog

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good stuff, i totally get now why they got the tag 'romantic'. it is impressive how he goes from one thing to the next, it's sort of similar to stream of consciousness but he also keeps it quite rooted in the natural world. and it's fairly economical - you get quite a lot if imagery in a short space. you fully get the sense he's just out there, in the wild, having these thoughts, linking them to the sights and sounds. one of those where he's able to articulate very well, better than i ever could, what i have felt myrself when in forests. or near water, or in the mountains.

enjoyed this little section

"These hedge-rows, hardly hedge-rows, little lines
Of sportive wood run wild: these pastoral farms,
Green to the very door; and wreaths of smoke
Sent up, in silence, from among the trees!"

I thought on first read that he's describing the creepers going up trees as smoke, which i thought was excellent, but on second look, he's on about smoke from woodcutters houses i think?

and this little couplet was nice

"Of eye, and ear,—both what they half create,
And what perceive; well pleased to recognise"

the perceive-recognise rhyme is good but also that thing about the eye and ear sensing only half each.
 

jenks

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There's much i really like about it - I suppose the over-riding idea i get from it is the way in which the sacred is dealt with - the pantheistic vision.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
"And I have felt
A presence that disturbs me with the joy
Of elevated thoughts; a sense sublime
Of something far more deeply interfused,
Whose dwelling is the light of setting suns,
And the round ocean and the living air,
And the blue sky, and in the mind of man:
A motion and a spirit, that impels
All thinking things, all objects of all thought,
And rolls through all things. "

I also have done LSD
 
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you fully get the sense he's just out there, in the wild, having these thoughts, linking them to the sights and sounds. one of those where he's able to articulate very well, better than i ever could, what i have felt myrself when in forests. or near water, or in the mountains.
Wordsworth actually composed while walking; he'd recite and mutter it to himself, and often his sister Dorothy would help with recollection + transcription. So these poems were, in fact, composed largely "en plein air"
 

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I'm into that, I do a lot of drawing and writing while walking. There's this guy Warren craghead, he draws while driving. I could do with someone to help with the notes as well.

I sent my friend this tintern Abbey one and he said both coleridge and wordsworth were doing daily extreme walking, like 300 miles in 10 days, in hob nailed boots, drugs on top. My kind of lads.

That would be a perfect weekend for me, Friday night into Saturday morning at the white hotel, a rest on Saturday then head to Edale Sunday morning and into the snow on kinder scout.
 

sus

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Yes the Wworths would often walk up to 30 miles in a day to visit friends, appalling local neighbors and Coleridge's wife in particular

Coleridge hisself I believe was a little more conservative and ah, refined on such matters. Liked playing the dandy on vacation to town. Well
 

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Did you ever hear about Wordsworth and Coleridge?
They were smokin' up in Kendal
By the lakeside
Can you meet me in the country in the long grass
In the summertime in England


Reminds me I been meanin to start a Tall Grass thread
 

pattycakes_

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It's near the lake district national park where I grew up but it's a few stops on the train away from the actual action. Ain't no lakes in Kendal, bruh.

Wordsworth was blagging it all along. He ain't even seen Windermere, the most basic of lakes.
 
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You grew up near the Lake District?? Wow! Are there pubs and inns named after Wworth and Cridge
 

pattycakes_

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I grew up in it bruv. Not too far from lake Windermere in Bowness. Nice place to grow up for real

There's plenty of heritage stuff to visit for sure. Google tells me there's a Wordsworth hotel up in Cockermouth of all places
 
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catalog

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Was it really a blag? I'm pretty sure there's a wordsworth museum in Grasmere... I know cos I wanted to go in and asked if it was free and the woman just laughed at me. So I didn't go but I'm pretty sure he lived there? And there's loads of lakes by Grasmere...

I might go the next time I'm there. Was there in the summer but we just got some fudge.
 

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> One more piece was published in the last years of [Duchess Georgiana Cavendish's] life, The Passage of the Mountain of Saint Gothard, first in an unauthorized version in the 'Morning Chronicle' and 'Morning Post' of 20 and 21 December 1799, then in a privately printed edition in 1800. A poem dedicated to her children, The Passage of the Mountain of Saint Gothard was based on her passage of the Saint Gotthard Pass, with Bess, between 10 and 15 August 1793 on her return to England. The thirty-stanza poem, together with 28 extended notes, were furthermore translated into some of the main languages of Western Europe including into French, by the Abbé de Lille, in 1802; Italian, by Signor Polidori, in 1803; and German in 1805. The Passage of the Mountain of Saint Gothard was then reprinted in 1816, after the duchess's death.[9] Samuel Taylor Coleridge published a glowing response to the poem, 'Ode to Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire' in the 'Morning Post' on 24 December 1799.

@luka This is the Duchess duchess
 

version

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I've always taken poetry to be, in some respects, an Instruction Manual. This is how you open out your senses, this is how you come alive, this is how you dial up the intensity and the vividness, this is how you break out in the wide open spaces.
"I cannot read the philosophers anymore and I don't think I will ever be able to again. Everything that is not poetry, mysticism or music is a betrayal. You cannot go back from poetry, music and mysticism to philosophy. It is evident they are much more than philosophy. A poet, a composer or a mystic philosophises only in moments of tiredness, when they are forced to return to a minor condition. They understand it's not a pride to be a philosopher. They understand how little philosophy knows, not to mention science. What is thought, faced with the ecstatic vibration, faced with the metaphysical cult of the nuances that defines any poetry? And how far is philosophy from merging with realities that solidify definitively the world of ideas in front of music and mysticism!"

-- Cartea Amăgirilor, Cioran.
 

luka

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That's true and most people here would accept that. Only a handful of terminally backwards people would quibble.
 
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