Corruption, 'Deep Politics', etc.

[luka]

the problem i have with the invocation of detail is that it makes any simplification at all impermissible and the world is exploded into ever more granular chaos, just bits of shrapnel flying everywhere

 

[luka]

This is just both-sidising it. Let's you state what you think - or what's entertaining for you to think - without ownership

if you have been reading me for 20 years and still dont understand where im coming from no amount of explaining is going to solve that is it

 

[craner]

so i present it partly to be looked at as a thing in the world with growing power and partly as a frame to interpret world events through and to see what it clarifies and what it distorts

One of the most tried and tested of these is "the stab in the back".

 

[DannyL]

i think this is quite a silly argument. you wouldnt be able to carry it through with any conviction if you attempted to.

That just means you can't be bothered to construct am argument against it. Not exciting enough.

 

[luka]

One of the most tried and tested of these is "the stab in the back".

is that what Jews do?

 

[DannyL]

if you have been reading me for 20 years and still dont understand where im coming from no amount of explaining is going to solve that is it

"The meaning of a communication is the response it elicits"

 

[luka]

yes, and it elicits all sorts of responses. the responses differ depnding on the level of reading comprehension and basic intelligence.

 

[craner]

the problem i have with the invocation of detail is that it makes any simplification at all impermissible and the world is exploded into ever more granular chaos, just bits of shrapnel flying everywhere

This is not true. The idea that you can only have a grand narrative driven by central actors with a plan or chaos is nonsensical. From your point of view, it's simply a justification for ignorance. But you're smart, the problem arises when somebody not so smart reads something about the Rothschilds and thinks "oh my God! How come nobody knows about this!"

 

[luka]

yes, that is a problem. stupid people are a problem.

 

[DannyL]

yes, and it elicits all sorts of responses. the responses differ depnding on the level of reading comprehension and basic intelligence.

And there we have it, the first slide to abuse because someone disagrees with you.

 

[luka]

And there we have it, the first slide to abuse because someone disagrees with you.

oh fuck off danny you know youre thick.

 

[luka]

im not interested in arguing because i already know all the possible moves.

 

[DannyL]

I understand you fine, you're just wrong.

 

[craner]

I was off by 6 minutes, it took longer than I thought

 

[luka]

so please dont try and draw me into 'debate'. youve completely misunderstood where im coming from.

 

[luka]

you and Tea want to try and 'defeat' me. but im not putting forward arguments. im not going into battle. my loins are not girded.

 

[DannyL]

so please dont try and draw me into 'debate'. youve completely misunderstood where im coming from.

Like I said, the disavowal of responsibility.

 

[luka]

responsibility for what you unhinged lunatic?

 

[luka]

you want me to paly by debate club rules so you can go into battle and defeat me with your arguments you learned off a blog. but thats not the game i am playing. im sorry but its not that.

 

[version]

I can't believe you've brought this to my beautiful thread.