matt b said:really? wow.
just reminded me of a poor jungle re-rub
the vocals aren't all that but the beat is absolutely terrific - hits really hard and you need to hear it very loud for full effect.
matt b said:really? wow.
just reminded me of a poor jungle re-rub
there are still djs who play that way and it still sounds better than each genre separately, imo.stelfox said:oh don't get me wrong martin, i'm not advocating any kind of revivalism and am not saying that the scene should even aim for that much variety again, even if it were brand new styles of music - mainly because it's very unlikely to happen. what made this period so great was that it was totally organic and exciting and there was a real sense that anything could happen because the music was really feeling its way along, not knowing quite what was around the corner and learning to be what its now become. my main point being that i think i enjoyed the journey more than the final destination(s).
stelfox said:but one of the main reasons i stopped going to forward for just over a year, about 2 years ago, apart from the music turning pretty dull, was because of the crowd: overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly male
stelfox said:and, marcus, my above statements are not to one-up anyone, but if i'm told that i don't have the right to an opinion because i haven't been seen in the right places i'm sure as eggs going to call that out. it's not as though i don't have a relatively strong background in this stuff.
mms said:my favorite el-b record is his rerub of quartz meltdown btw..
borderpolice said:1996 --> 2001 that's quite a time.
what didn't work i think was the crossover to (producers) outside of london (with the exception of russia, where 2step garage is popular, but that does not feed back to the london scene, partly because of russian lyrics).
boomnoise said:benny ill is doing a dub set at dmz so maybe not. but i would love to hear someone do an oldschool set at dmz, playing el-b and ghost stuff and the like. think it would go down really well.
stelfox said:marcus i am terribly sorry if you feel insulted. i am deeply unsettled that my opinion of dubstep having become progressively more uninteresting after beginning as something very worthy of note at first offends you so. i also apologise for observing changes in a music's core audience, even if it is something i'm sort of supposed to do.
i do wonder, though, if someone more respected around these parts had said exactly the same things as i have, whether they would have been met with such hostility or basically told to shut up because they "can't back it up". i doubt it. i've not been rude to anyone on this thread. i've not insulted anyone. i've just passed comment on a style of music i've become very disillusioned with so there really isn't anything i should be showing any kind of contrition about if i think about it. still, if that's the way you feel i'm sorry all the same.
Blackdown said:um... i think benny's back in the US actually. someone has Nicely been able to step in with a huge stack of new dubs, will be spinning from early - dont miss!
stelfox said:i maintain the utmost respect for other people's right to listen to music i don't particularly enjoy.
stelfox said:marcus i am terribly sorry if you feel insulted. i am deeply unsettled that my opinion of dubstep having become progressively more uninteresting after beginning as something very worthy of note at first offends you so. i also apologise for observing changes in a music's core audience, even if it is something i'm sort of supposed to do.
i do wonder, though, if someone more respected around these parts had said exactly the same things as i have, whether they would have been met with such hostility or basically told to shut up because they "can't back it up". i doubt it. i've not been rude to anyone on this thread. i've not insulted anyone. i've just passed comment on a style of music i've become very disillusioned with so there really isn't anything i should be showing any kind of contrition about if i think about it. still, if that's the way you feel i'm sorry all the same.
boomnoise said:benny ill is doing a dub set at dmz so maybe not. but i would love to hear someone do an oldschool set at dmz, playing el-b and ghost stuff and the like. think it would go down really well.
i did not think so. quite a lot of people i talked to think that contemporary dubstep sounds "like techno" and those who are into "oficial" black genres (hip hop, r'n'b, dancehall) even more so.mms said:the idea that dubstep is a branch of techno is strange
jay-s said:i did not think so. quite a lot of people i talked to think that contemporary dubstep sounds "like techno" and those who are into "oficial" black genres (hip hop, r'n'b, dancehall) even more so.