films you've seen recently and would NOT recommend
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rubberdingyrapids
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went to see avengers assemble without realising its TWO AND A HALF HOURS (WHY?!) long but it was pretty enjoyable and fun in the old fashioned superhero/blockbuster movie sense and tom hiddleston is a really good typical evil brit (though hes from asgard) in there though the whole thing is still totally average really.
im struggling to remember the last really good one of these marvel movies.
im struggling to remember the last really good one of these marvel movies.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
Aside from the XMen - who I think are always good, regardless - it was Iron Man 1, and they've cashed in all the way since. I was expecting better from Whedon. It's rubbish. I fell asleep!
rubberdingyrapids
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i started to drift off in the end part where NY gets fucked over for the 94350943rd time.
id watch a whole film about loki, thors brother.
id watch a whole film about loki, thors brother.
rubberdingyrapids
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didnt like loved you so long. thought it was a bit corny. was all a bit predictable and aspired for its sadness a bit too heavily imo - disliked the music as well, seemed a bit too cool for it to really hammer home the melancholy it seemed to be going for. *spoiler* you knew that the nature of her crime wasnt going to be that terrible, that it would be harrowing but sympathetic.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Silver Tongues. Just don't bother, even if you think the blurb sounds 'intriguing'; it's nasty, and not in a good way.
rubberdingyrapids
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apocalypse now. last time i saw it was when redux came out and i loved it but this time, the voiceover now made me think of a million film noirs/detective thrillers but worse as there was too much of it and all that pained maleness/jadedness was grating on me. the whole film seemed to be straining for something deeper than was really there on the screen. or maybe its just that its been parodied too much by now. the other thing that bugged me was how little you saw of who they were killing. even when theyre killing the vietnamese on the boat at close range, you barely see their bodies - its ALL about the american troops. which i get, but it just seemed to ignore the consequences a bit too readily.
obv i could have just been in a shitty mood.
obv i could have just been in a shitty mood.
rubberdingyrapids
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continuing with my revisiting of old american 70s classics, 2001 is amazing but you dont really need the stuff about the beginnings of man do you? im not even sure you need the ending that much either even if it is interesting visually and affecting, but the middle part is just classic. if the space-set section was all there was, i think it would be a stronger film.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I enjoyed the Apocalypse Now redux version but I don't think I've seen the original cut to make a comparison. I did find that the weird bit in the middle when he meets up with these French colonialists went on for fucking ever, though - and what is with that scene where the dude crushes a raw egg in his hand to make some trite point about white people and 'yellow' people? Yeah, because French people just talk like that, obviously.
About hardly ever seeing the Viet Cong troops, or their dead bodies...have you read Heart of Darkness? I would say the film is fairly true to the book in that respect, as the Congolese natives are portrayed pretty much as an extension of the jungle they live in, rather than as actual people. Which of course is not unproblematic, but I guess it must just reflect how Conrad really felt when he was there. You can easily imagine US marines feeling the same way about the native fighters in either Vietnam during the war there or today in Afghanistan.
About hardly ever seeing the Viet Cong troops, or their dead bodies...have you read Heart of Darkness? I would say the film is fairly true to the book in that respect, as the Congolese natives are portrayed pretty much as an extension of the jungle they live in, rather than as actual people. Which of course is not unproblematic, but I guess it must just reflect how Conrad really felt when he was there. You can easily imagine US marines feeling the same way about the native fighters in either Vietnam during the war there or today in Afghanistan.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
This line works just as well if you replace 'man' with 'ie'.
rubberdingyrapids
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i will admit that ive been a bit miserable lately so this might be having an effect.
rubberdingyrapids
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i posted a bit about it in the giallo thread but although i loved the gear porn and seeing some of the techniques being used in berberian sound studio (and that secretary was stupidly hot) but the main problems were for me that its set in italy but it never stopped feeling like someone from outside looking in (which is maybe appropriate as the main character is english and also feeling displaced etc but still, something was amiss). the ending was also a massive anti climax - they could have left it as a nice little character study but instead they tried to give it a big scary twist but it felt shoehorned in and also a bit generic actually. also, just not very scary. there were interesting things i thought about the main character being disoriented, struggling with a diff culture, slowly going a little crazy from being homesick, etc, but it didnt add up to enough for me apart from some interesting little observations - the film was kinda caught between the problem of just making a film about a guy trying to work abroad in a nasty industry (which is prob a good theme for 2012) but then having to remember that its a film about giallo and struggling to fit some of those genre conventions in at the last minute. i think it would have been better if it didnt try to do the 'how does horror affect those who work on it' thing or at least just concentrated fully on the character and made the giallo theme kind of incidental rather than suddenly deciding its going to be a horror film for the last quarter or so.
i didnt know i had that much to say on this film.
edit - basically katalin varga is better in every way (even sound, ironically).
i didnt know i had that much to say on this film.
edit - basically katalin varga is better in every way (even sound, ironically).
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IdleRich
IdleRich
I think that BSS was pretty enjoyable but I'd agree that it didn't totally add up. I'm amazed that that film got made cos I don't think that it would mean anything to you if you didn't have at least some kind of passing familiarity with the Giallo genre. Anyway, there were loads of funny bits and lots of it very well observed and the bits towards the end when it got weird were genuinely very weird but it wasn't quite clear how that fitted with the bits that had preceded it and didn't really fit together properly somehow. To be honest, I didn't really understand what the film was trying to say in the last fifteen minutes or so - or more simply I just didn't understand it. What do you think happened at the end?
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rubberdingyrapids
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*spoilers*
i dont know either. i didnt get how he suddenly went from hearing something in his bed to seeing himself as part of the film and then talking in italian unless it was meant to be a hallucination. i think the idea was meant to be that he was gradually going a bit crazy and unravelling as the film went on from seeing all the violence, being around nasty directors/bosses etc, generally being treated like dirt, and losing grip on reality. or that it was all just some weird figment of his imagination, or ours, or that nothing is what it seems in giallo, that he maybe separated himself from his real self in order to deal better with the horrible films he was part of. im actually starting to think more of the ending typing all that though i thought it was a bit weak when i watched it. i dont hate the film or anything btw, i just expected more after being sucked in by all the reviews. also, the directors first film was brilliant imo whereas this one seemed a bit unsure of itself.
i dont know either. i didnt get how he suddenly went from hearing something in his bed to seeing himself as part of the film and then talking in italian unless it was meant to be a hallucination. i think the idea was meant to be that he was gradually going a bit crazy and unravelling as the film went on from seeing all the violence, being around nasty directors/bosses etc, generally being treated like dirt, and losing grip on reality. or that it was all just some weird figment of his imagination, or ours, or that nothing is what it seems in giallo, that he maybe separated himself from his real self in order to deal better with the horrible films he was part of. im actually starting to think more of the ending typing all that though i thought it was a bit weak when i watched it. i dont hate the film or anything btw, i just expected more after being sucked in by all the reviews. also, the directors first film was brilliant imo whereas this one seemed a bit unsure of itself.
IdleRich
IdleRich
MORE SPOILERS Yes, there seemed to be some kind of switch of reality but was it to a hallucination or was it that he somehow entered the film and the dubbing into Italian was real? I dunno, I got the feeling that the director was somehow gesturing towards something along those lines but I'm not sure that he actually managed to nail it in a way that was more coherent than a vague gesture... unless I'm missing something.
His other film was Katalina Varga right? Still haven't seen it unfortunately.
His other film was Katalina Varga right? Still haven't seen it unfortunately.
rubberdingyrapids
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amour was ok. it was powerful as it went on, but it felt a bit too elliptical. not saying it should have been as emotive as away from her which covered something similar, but it felt quite barren where it could have said more. it did have some really realistic touches, which anyone who has seen someone elderly deteriorating will recognise, but something about it felt too knowingly stripped back and detached, a bit removed.