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bitter honey is sold out already. couldn't find any info on enchanter's nightshade or memory working: impromptus. i ordered her air fallen and squeezed white noise, will post some scans.
 
I took 10:04 to read on holiday. It's probably still on the villa bookshelf in Skiathos where I tucked it, largely unread, into the space left by All the light we cannot see. I'm not usually a book-abandoner, but I hope a gecko gnawed the fuck out of it.
 
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jenks

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@jenks has probably read Lerner.
Back at work now so catching this discussion late and tired....
Yes, yes, I have. I read 10:04 but like a lot of that stuff -Tan Lin springs to mind as well - I get that it’s a form of trying to be absolutely modern but often it lacks warmth. Someone I’d rather read is Teju Cole. Also DeLillo has a sense of humour amidst it all - White Noise is very funny in places.
 

version

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@catalog read Tao Lin's book on psychedelics and said it was alright. That's probably the one I'd try if I ever got round to him, although Taipei was the one I remember people actually talking about.
 

jenks

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@catalog read Tao Lin's book on psychedelics and said it was alright. That's probably the one I'd try if I ever got round to him, although Taipei was the one I remember people actually talking about.
Read Taipei and really felt hugely disconnected from the world they were describing. Maybe an age/generational thing but I felt blank when I read it. Whereas I think something like Egan’s Visit From The Goon Squad had something far more sympathetic- all these books trying to analyse why modern life creates a feeling of isolation and estrangement. I even see that in Normal People - characters who cannot find a way to be happy or even communicate their discontent.
not my most coherent post - been back in the classroom and my head is spinning.
 

borzoi

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all these books trying to analyse why modern life creates a feeling of isolation and estrangement

the only thing in the last ten years that's correctly communicated what this feels like is twin peaks the return.
 

luka

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maybe you're right about that. i mean, i don't feel like twin peaks the return, thank christ, but twin peaks the return definitely felt like isolation and estrangement.
 

borzoi

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i think its basically the only real description of america in the 2010s. its all set in shitty suburban developments and office parks and has these long boring stretches punctuated with random acts of violence. and it all emanates out of this nuclear demiurge at the heart of everyone and everything. its the feeling of living at the end of the empire. says way more about the modern era than anything about trump ever could. you watch twin peaks and you see where someone like stephen paddock came from.

it's not a chore though, if you stick with it it's really funny and deeply humanistic, like you get the sense that david lynch really sees and cares about everyday people more than most of these disaffected 2010s authors. and it has a nice buddhist message about slowing down and observing the world and being kind to everyone around you. idk i hardly ever watch tv besides tng and what my girlfriend watches and i hate most of the overhyped netflix stuff but i think the return is really something special. but it has to vibrate at the right frequency for you. it doesn't for everyone and thats ok.

and yea its meant to look like shitty flat digital cos thats how we interface with the world.

 
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