Reckon Hyph is a wicked tune but of the debut 12", Wet Look is definitely the one.
J.Doe on the myspace is poss better than either tho..
Dubstep
Reckon Hyph is a wicked tune but of the debut 12", Wet Look is definitely the one.
J.Doe on the myspace is poss better than either tho..
viktorvaughn
Well-known member
So anyone catch Pangea and co at FWD? Some weird outer-space-step stuff, not quite sure what to think, was it me or shades of Akufen style glitchy cut-up house flavours?
Pangea looks a little bit like Christopher Walken imo.
Pangea looks a little bit like Christopher Walken imo.
benjybars
village elder.
but much nicer and less scary.
Paul Hotflush
techno head
Yeh I realise it's not a very accurate way of describing funky in musical terms, but it is kind of how it came about. I see where you're coming from with the respect thing re: dubstep/techno, and of course there isn't anything like that with funky (which I agree is positive). Not sure I concur that dubstep+techno = sophisticated+sophisticated though... But the main thing about dubstep+techno is that it's just one part of a wider branch of dubstep which is all quite interchangable but takes influences from lots of different stuff. I know people on here like to slag off the techno-influenced stuff (which is useful) but in reality it's just part of something that's growing into a viable alternative to what I guess is "mainstream" dubstep these days.
The problem with the dubstep+techno stuff for me is that most of it has been moving towards the dub techno stuff or the perlon/cadenza/minus kind of techno which, in my eyes, have been stagnant recycling the same ideas over and over again for nearly a decade (since Alcachofa?)
I like the new 2562 on Tectonic, that one does sound a bit like 90's Axis to me, which is what I see as the golden era of techno
I like the new 2562 on Tectonic, that one does sound a bit like 90's Axis to me, which is what I see as the golden era of techno
Yeah course, i like some of the techno stuff, i guess martyn is probably one of the main guys who does this stuff but he's got his own sound and i like that, you know i love techno from this period i'm talking about too, but dubstep seems to have more choices than this kinda reaching back, i'm into what brackles and floating points have done recently it seems to be a bit weirder a bit harder to pin point, which is always good. also ghostleigh, like that stuff.
basically a good djs gonna cut across the board with the quality stuff anyway inne?
Macabre Unit have always been way ahead.
Apart from obviously 'Lift Off' my other favourites are 'Slojak' and 'Sense'.
I would agree with that equation only because of the context. When the aggressive wobbler brand of dubstep became most prevalent, the move some producers made towards dark garage revival, techno revival etc, was seen, if not outright done by some, as a reaction to the very lowbrow and un-sophisticated direction dubstep was heading in.
Grievous Angel
Beast of Burden
<drags knuckles across the floor>
UG
Yeah you're right.
I do still like a bit of midrangey wobble, especially when it crosses over into stuff grime MCs can get on. It's actually very hard to do properly! And I still REALLY like the best "mainstream" techy rollers from Benga, Skream etc. There's this fantastic near-steppers roller Youngsta's been playing for months which has a sample of Rodigan saying "Killer! Killer!" which totally does my head in. I think it might be Chase and Status arrgh! I presume everyone but me knows what it is???
Paul this forum isn't really anti dubstep+techno, it's just that it was onto it so early that people want something different, hence the "where is it?" funky crossover stuff.
To wit... I do LOVE the brackles stuff but it is a bit TOO broken. I mean I've been making loads of broken stuff recently but not THAT far gone. Compare and contrast with Pearson Sound - Roska is the tune of the moment - and Roska...
Mind you this week I'm just making house.
Also... Skream is working with Guy Chambers.
Tentative Andy
I'm in the Meal Deal
Ok, because I'm not a producer this prob won't make much sense, so if you or anybody else thinks it would be better if I shut up just say so. But....
One of the things I really like about the recent Brackles/Shortstuff/Mickey Pearce/Martin Kemp etc stuff is that it's so broken up that it actually comes back around to having some similarities to halfstep, or at least has the potential to. I.e. because there's so many 'gaps' in the beats, there's room left to emphasise the 3 every so often whilst doing other stuff. Plus more generally the contrasting rhythmic elements in the tunes can help produce that same 'pulling back' effect that halfstep has.
Whereas with the Pearson Sound stuff - which I love too and would def play out if I had the chance - it follows the house format more closely so it's more difficult to do that (think the same is partially true of what other recent dubstep refugees like Geiom have been doing). Not that this is a problem per se, it helps make the direction they're taking sound distinctive. But I have this dream where eventually the big rave djs start playing some of the broken, percussive tunes because they're close enough to their rhythmic format to work. Probably won't happen though.
Once again, just thoughts off the top of my head....
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Slothrop
Tight but Polite
Picked up City Limits by Silkie last weekend.
It's great, really nice stuff. But it's kind of interesting that with fidgety beats and detroity melodicism, it wouldn't have sounded massively out of place on Warp in 1999/2000...
Also, is it my imagination or does dubstep produce decent albums at a much greater rate than most dance genres?
It's great, really nice stuff. But it's kind of interesting that with fidgety beats and detroity melodicism, it wouldn't have sounded massively out of place on Warp in 1999/2000...
Also, is it my imagination or does dubstep produce decent albums at a much greater rate than most dance genres?
