Wuhan Killer Sneeze (thanks Tea)

[Mr. Tea]

btw why have the manufacturers been given legal indemnity?

I expect for a very boring and obvious reason, such as even vaccines that are safe for nearly everyone can produce unpleasant or even dangerous symptoms in a small minority?

 

[Mr. Tea]

I don't eat food with wierd ingredients from zero-rated kitchens for that reason. Or from Bills.

You could be dining at the Fat Duck and someone there just wants to kill you. You can't rule it out. It's a non-zero probability.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

vast global conspiracy

Why is every country adopting 'Build Back Better' as its slogan? There's clearly some sort of coordination going on.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

I expect for a very boring and obvious reason, such as even vaccines that are safe for nearly everyone can produce unpleasant or even dangerous symptoms in a small minority?

What kind of side effects are they expecting that would wipe out any profit gained from selling hundreds of millions of doses?

 

[IdleRich]

It doesn't matter as the expected value is so low either way.

It matters to me. How likely do you think it is that the virus or the vaccine (I'm not sure precisely which you're saying) is an attempt to kill people? Just your opinion.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

You could be dining at the Fat Duck and someone there just wants to kill you. You can't rule it out. It's a non-zero probability.

I've eaten at the Fat Duck and it was worth the risk.

 

[Mr. Tea]

What kind of side effects are they expecting that would wipe out any profit gained from selling hundreds of millions of doses?

Lawsuits for this sort of thing can be pretty expensive.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Lawsuits for this sort of thing can be pretty expensive.

Sounds pretty unethical to seek indemnity; even more so if people are forced to take it.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Why is every country adopting 'Build Back Better' as its slogan? There's clearly some sort of coordination going on.

Because it's a short, alliterative phrase and the people who come up with this stuff aren't known for their originality? Look, I have no idea, and obviously yes they're all working together and coordinating stuff all the time. That's the boring-but-true aspect of conspiracies. But I would say it's a bit of a leap from that to "they want to murder us/render us infertile using a vaccine".

Actually I wouldn't call it a "leap", I'd call it a "screaming, flailing spasm".

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Why is every country adopting 'Build Back Better' as its slogan? There's clearly some sort of coordination going on.

It can't just be coordination but coercion as it boggles the mind to think that so many of such different political stripes are adopting a slogan that will immediately become hackneyed and non-specific through its ubiquity.

 

[Mr. Tea]

It also sounds like you're over-egging the pudding a bit:

COVID-19 vaccine makers see EU shield against side-effect claims

Vaccine makers will be indemnified in Europe if their COVID-19 shots cause unexpected side-effects, an industry official said on Tuesday, urging European regulators to set up more predictable schemes to compensate possible victims.

uk.reuters.com

A spokesman for the European Commission declined to comment specifically on Middleton’s remarks, but said advance purchase deals “provide for member states to indemnify the manufacturer for certain liabilities incurred under specific and strict conditions” but “liability still remains with the companies”.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

That sounds better, yes.

 

[IdleRich]

Boris Johnson has got to self-isolate apparently. I would love it if he caught it again.

 

[version]

Boris Johnson has got to self-isolate apparently. I would love it if he caught it again.

Apparently he was with the bloke on Thursday. Did he meet Dom and others after that? They might all have to self-isolate.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

He should have given a false name; what a noob.

 

[chava]

i always thought these mink farms were highly profitable?

Probably some of them. It's not a walk in the park, though. Or they just have overinvested

 

[version]

This sort of thing is why I won't be having the vaccine.

Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes

Review of fresh evidence finds jab given to 6 million people in Britain can occasionally cause sleep disorder

www.theguardian.com

These NHS Staff Were Told The Swine Flu Vaccine Was Safe, And Now They're Suffering The Consequences

Dozens of NHS workers are fighting for compensation after developing narcolepsy from a swine flu vaccine that was rushed into service without the usual testing when the disease spread across the globe in 2009. They say it has destroyed their careers and their health.

www.buzzfeed.com

 

[luka]

dissensus is fully anti vax

 

[chava]

This sort of thing is why I won't be having the vaccine.

Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes

Review of fresh evidence finds jab given to 6 million people in Britain can occasionally cause sleep disorder

www.theguardian.com

These NHS Staff Were Told The Swine Flu Vaccine Was Safe, And Now They're Suffering The Consequences

Dozens of NHS workers are fighting for compensation after developing narcolepsy from a swine flu vaccine that was rushed into service without the usual testing when the disease spread across the globe in 2009. They say it has destroyed their careers and their health.

www.buzzfeed.com

Health authorities in DK pushed for not buying this vacc at the time, though some (right wing) politicians did, and curiously enough the Swedish health authorities did as well. The man in charge at that time was the current head of the Swedish coronavirus response Anders Tegnell.

 

[WashYourHands]

Sorry, it's dwindling in the UK.

Dwindling? Why of course it is. Tens of thousands of new infections every day and more people in NHS care from it now than in the spring.

By all means continue being the contrarian.