yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
no i'm not, i don't want to have a personalized qr-code
The Coming Authoritarianism.
wild greens
Well-known member
There we go
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
You already have a passport, I presume? Plus documentation related to residence, medical insurance, a birth certificate? Bank cards?
I mean, I could understand this extreme aversion to the idea of a vaccination certificate if it came from someone was genuinely off-grid, an actual 21st-century caveman, who had managed to take himself off every conceivable government system. But you have a smartphone, right? Clearly you use the internet, at any rate. I expect at least one form of social media, beyond Dissensus. Are you really naive enough to think any arbitrarily sinister government agency doesn't already have more than enough tools to know where you are and what you're up to at any given time?
mixed_biscuits
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You already pull your pants down when you go to the loo; why not have them down everywhere?
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
i don't want to have those either, if i could get a fake passport or a fake birth certificate i would get those too. anyway this pretty much sums up why i don't want to get a qr-code specifically: https://www.cigionline.org/articles/whats-really-stake-vaccine-passports/
so if someone has experiences with the fake ones going around that you can install on your telephone, then let me know.
There was a nurse in Germany handing them out. She got busted and probably rendered down into vaccine feedstock.
Did you see those asshole German police walking around with rulers to enforce social distancing. Bad magic.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
The funniest thing about this whole orgy of stupidity is that one of the commonest right-wing complaints is that "everyone wants to be oppressed these days", but this is more true of privileged reactionaries than of any other group. So @mixed_biscuits and @148 I.Q. Magical Thinker have converged on this sort of mutant right-wing pseudo-socialism, whereby some middle-class, middle-aged, able-bodied white guys, who still have a faint muscle memory of headbanging to Rage Against The Machine as teenagers, imagine they're bravely sticking it to The Man by siding with a virus that overwhelmingly affects the elderly, the poor, the sick and disabled, and non-white people. So bravo, guys. Real heroic of you.
Bit disappointed to see @yyaldrin falling for the same bullshit, I have to say.
Bit disappointed to see @yyaldrin falling for the same bullshit, I have to say.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
But as it happens, you have them, so what's the fucking point? By this line of thinking, you're already an enslaved sheeple plugged into the Matrix.
luka
Well-known member
do you not worry even a tiny bit about 'the coming authoritarianism' to coin a phrase?
mixed_biscuits
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It is more than possible to act very sensibly around this hazard without needing an extensive surveillance network, swingeing punitive measures and state-sponsored fearmongering; kudos to the government propaganda mavens for convincing many that the gvt and its intrusions are essential.
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
for me the covid passport is just another passport that serves as an instrument to exclude people and it will exactly be the poor, the sick, the disabled, the non-white people, the activists and the outcasts that will suffer under such an instrument.
luka
Well-known member
and d) actually really good and fun
It's a tidy way to sort the sheep from the goats.
People who they own, and people who would rather remain free range.
People who they own, and people who would rather remain free range.
A new contract between government and governed, wherein your chimeric genetic material is your pass to remain in society. Some of the more batshit elements suggest that consenting to have your genetic material altered (I'm careful not to say DNA here) makes you other than human, so human rights don't apply. I wouldn't go that far, but the idea is out there.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
I think people who came of age in the 90s / 2000s are actually crippled in our response to this stuff because we developed an instinctive "fuck off" reaction during The War Against Terror from being told that we need all this massively intrusive state surveillance in case someone makes C4 in their flat and blows up a bus once every few years. I don't think the same kneejerk reaction is automatically justified in something like the current situation where we've got the equivalent of two to three 7/7 attacks happening every day and anyone who isn't trapped in a bubble of their own tediously self-satisfied egowank can see things are likely to get significantly worse in the near future.
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
3G in Berlin: Senat verbannt Obdachlose von Bahnsteigen
Obdachlose ohne 3G-Nachweis dürfen nicht mehr vor der Kälte auf Bahnsteigen Zuflucht suchen. Der Senat bedauert die Entscheidung, bleibt aber hart.
www.berliner-zeitung.de
in berlin during winter, homeless people are allowed to seek shelter in some of the subway stations, it's not a lot in terms of comfort, they just sleep on the floor, but it literally prevents them from freezing to death. this winter, they will need to have a proof of vaccination, or a covid-passport, or else they will be chased away by police.
Now get equally worked up about undiagnosed cancer sufferers, people waking up with myocarditis, people topping themselves, wrecked education and businesses, a looming breakdown of supply chains, and unequalled redistribution of wealth the wrong way.
An no-one makes C4 in their flat, it was TATP.
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