A Brooklyn Culture Mafia

[luka]

I don't really have a consistent position on this stuff. Sometimes I'd rather be out socialising, but I do generally find things disappointing. Everything's just that bit more mundane than you imagine. I remember feeling that way at my first gig. This sense of "It's just a normal room with some music gear set up at one end".

im like thi$ too. imagination $et$ a $tandard reality can only fail to live up to.

 

[WashYourHands]

I had a trawl through these people's Twitter accounts and anyone else's that happened to pop up and it further cemented my aversion to Twitter. They seem to be in a constant game of one-upmanship with anyone else occupying the same territory. If they've read the same books or hold the same views then somehow the other person has read them wrong or they're "still reading those guys" and they don't like them anymore.

If you’re in the north and ever want to join in some mountain expeditions across the Lake district, fuck loads more fun than the internet.

There’s an initiation ritual bit though. We don’t really talk about that.

 

[version]

There’s an initiation ritual bit though. We don’t really talk about that.

 

[beiser]

do you think this is this a uniquely millennial phenomenon?

no, but i think historically people realized they were doing it, tried to conceal it, felt shame, whereas the new thing is doing it with a degree of pride, convinced it’s virtuous

 

[linebaugh]

im like thi$ too. imagination $et$ a $tandard reality can only fail to live up to.

I generally think everything is going to be shit and that gives reality the space to redeem itself.

 

[luka]

that$ y i dont under$tand people being into raving clubbing it$ JU$T A room ith $ome $peaker$ in it

 

[version]

Ye$.

 

[linebaugh]

no, but i think historically people realized they were doing it, tried to conceal it, felt shame, whereas the new thing is doing it with a degree of pride, convinced it’s virtuous

its crucial to the archetypal millennial I'm building in my head- 'adulting,' depression memes, ghosting etc.

 

[WashYourHands]

@luka and @version Until it’s outdoors under the stars and free.

 

[luka]

thi$ keyboard i$ fucked by the ay

 

[beiser]

how is £uca t¥ping that do££ar sign, has h€ switch€d to an am€rican k€¥board?

 

[beiser]

its crucial to the archetypal millennial I'm building in my head- 'adulting,' depression memes, ghosting etc.

the real gaslighting was the gaslighting we did to ourselves

 

[catalog]

If you’re in the north and ever want to join in some mountain expeditions across the Lake district, fuck loads more fun than the internet.

There’s an initiation ritual bit though. We don’t really talk about that.

Mr Your Hands, we should organise a walking trip up north. I wanna do the wolds way, nice easy one, apparently very pretty and no one does it. Hessle to Filey. . Or fuck it and do helvellyn via striding edge. Version can join in and maybe boxedjoy will get the train down.

 

[catalog]

But I don't wanna go dogging or nowt

 

[sus]

The Recognitions is a complex book and it's not always easy to tell what he's thinking or what a particular bit means. One thing I would say with confidence though is that he really fucking hates NY scenesters.

Can we get passages?

 

[version]

Can we get passages?

Here's a good one. A famous one,

“I know you, I know you. You're the only serious person in the room, aren't you, the only one who understands, and you can prove it by the fact that you've never finished a single thing in your life. You're the only well-educated person, because you never went to college, and you resent education, you resent social ease, you resent good manners, you resent success, you resent any kind of success, you resent God, you resent Christ, you resent thousand-dollar bills, you resent Christmas, by God, you resent happiness, you resent happiness itself, because none of that's real. What is real, then? Nothing's real to you that isn't part of your own past, real life, a swamp of failures, of social, sexual, financial, personal...spiritual failure. Real life. You poor bastard. You don't know what real life is, you've never been near it. All you have is a thousand intellectualized ideas about life. But life? Have you ever measured yourself against anything but your own lousy past? Have you ever faced anything outside yourself? Life! You poor bastard.”

 

[sus]

Hey I know that guy! He's our mod!

 

[catalog]

Ulysses is a book where I do actually care about the characters. Bloom is a great character. My lack of interest in characters may be precisely because I tend to read books where they aren't the focus. If you read Ballard or whoever all the time then you aren't gonna develop a taste for character-driven writing unless you just get fed up and decide to go for something drastically different.

Ulysses by the end is really quite heartbreaking, you are properly invested in bloom.

 

[sus]

No I like Luka and I'm quite glad he's here, despite him tryna pull a cult-indoctrination "you're amazing / you're the worst / you're the worst but I can make you better" three-step routine on me

Believe I usually score INTP—P for perception. Luka's pure J for judgment, and it's great, you need opinions. I don't have strong feelings about anything except a couple books/movies/songs. It has some serious downsides

 

[catalog]

You should read ulysses spen, if you haven't already, it's really good