Why Conspiracy Theories?
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wild greens
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What these conspiracy theories do create, & i understand this appeal more than most, is a narrative where, you, "the citizen" are worthy of being the central focus. Most people are completely irrelevant but these theories make you star of the show.
The Western military & cultural hegemony being challenged by a Sino-Russian axis, supported economically by India (already happening- Google rupee-rouble) and Brazil ("neutral") is a far more pressing concern to modern Western society than a conceptual "elite" micro-managing your economic existence.
Anyway
The Western military & cultural hegemony being challenged by a Sino-Russian axis, supported economically by India (already happening- Google rupee-rouble) and Brazil ("neutral") is a far more pressing concern to modern Western society than a conceptual "elite" micro-managing your economic existence.
Anyway
wild greens
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No not really
What I mean is that if "you" are about to have your "liberties" taken away via this digital ID control route, then it is able to resonate more than an overarching conspiracy about global players or a secret one-world government etc. This conspiracy has managed to make a global concept resonate at low level
Its why covid spawned the most successful conspiracy following, i think; everything existed at a personal day-to-day level (lockdown, curfews, "one walk a day") as opposed to, say, the grandiose 9/11 stuff
Is it any wonder that the covid vaccine passport paranoia has been so successfully incorporated into the great reset digital ID storyline? It's a good hook
What I mean is that if "you" are about to have your "liberties" taken away via this digital ID control route, then it is able to resonate more than an overarching conspiracy about global players or a secret one-world government etc. This conspiracy has managed to make a global concept resonate at low level
Its why covid spawned the most successful conspiracy following, i think; everything existed at a personal day-to-day level (lockdown, curfews, "one walk a day") as opposed to, say, the grandiose 9/11 stuff
Is it any wonder that the covid vaccine passport paranoia has been so successfully incorporated into the great reset digital ID storyline? It's a good hook
wild greens
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I'm saying that at the level of governance this is supposedly coming from, the individual is irrelevant, yes
Mr. Tea
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This is all of a piece with the emergence of the right - or a certain subset of it - as the main locus of anti-establishment feeling, as opposed to the left, as it was in previous generations. So in a weird way, socialism and capitalism become synonymous, because their main feature is a desire to deprive the sovereign individual of his rights and freedoms. Whether the huge, collective They that's doing this is a liberal government trying to make everyone have covid vaccines (say) "for their own good", or a neoliberal corporate oligopoly doing the same thing because it's profitable, becomes irrelevant.
wild greens
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To who?
British government has removed right to protest, done away with workers rights (look at this P&O Ferries shit or e.g. British Gas engineer situation), lined their pockets massively throughout covid, pushed child poverty through the roof, food bank usage is unbelievably high etc etc
And no-one cares
Society is extremely desensitised now
luka
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you remove the right to protest as a measure to help you deal with a potentially bothersome population. you sack workers en masse and tell them to sign on with an agency to help you deal with a potentially bothersome workforce. these are adminstrative and logistical measures to control people. decisions made by people whose job this is.
wild greens
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You're missing my point. If the public were a "problem" these things wouldn't be allowed to happen. The compliant mass is already there.
The decision to remove the right to protest was made because the government knew they'd get away with it. P&O know they can sack a workforce en masse because no-one cares and nothing will happen
The Great reset argument contradicts all this, of course, because you would lose your job and fall straight onto UBI amid an automated society where you don't need a job.
Good argument you've got here
The decision to remove the right to protest was made because the government knew they'd get away with it. P&O know they can sack a workforce en masse because no-one cares and nothing will happen
The Great reset argument contradicts all this, of course, because you would lose your job and fall straight onto UBI amid an automated society where you don't need a job.
Good argument you've got here
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
"no-one cares" is obviously a massive overstatement, but the problem is that the people who do care often can't agree on what to do about it, or disagree violently on other things (e.g. Brexit and other manifestations of the culture war). So the cunts perpetrating it all keep getting away with it.
luka
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why would you bother doing these things if there wasnt a problem lol
wild greens
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Well... the fact that it is hasn't passed and didn't go through the house of Lords- and is going back to the house of commons again- but you assumed what I said is correct, just shows you how irrelevant all this is, surely.