Resistance is Futile.

[shiels]

1. Everything is everything mate, ask any physicist
2. That nonsense space is where all the good new ideas come from
3. Good post, you said a lot of things I wanted to in response to luka

 

[luka]

shiels is on my side, he beleives in the one true god but sometimes he has doubts and recriminations. wonders if hes being irresponsible.

 

[luka]

theres no sides btw

 

[luka]

ridiculous divisive chat. i wont have it.

 

[craner]

I'm pro-reality.

 

[luka]

I'm pro-reality.

doesnt mean nothing

 

[luka]

pro realtiy is pro demiurge

 

[luka]

the game is about taking control of the god function and overthrowing the demiurge, not submission and subordination. everyone knows that.

 

[craner]

doesnt mean nothing

You spotted the flaw.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

He keeps trying to raise the golden calf of idolatry and I have to keep pulling it down

lol

I've repeatedly told luka over the years that in Antiquity he would've been the priest of some esoteric mystery cult

secret knowledge, hallucinogenic oracles, cryptic rituals, magic, omphalos, ouroboros, the snake eats itself, everything is everything

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

pro realtiy is pro demiurge

gnosticism isn't a bad shout either for lukaism either, loathing the things of this world, illusion, mystical insight

 

[luka]

im not really anti intellectual, not in that way. carner said i have a 'raw, untutored intellect'

 

[shiels]

I know absolutely fuck all me. I can learn quickly and spot the connections, build a sense of coherence, spot the patterns, but I don’t hold on it for long, maybe some slither, vague principles. But details don’t matter. I can’t remember people or numbers or facts. I don’t fully forget them either like, I realise that in conversation.

Is this bad beyond boring Padraig? Do I need to know stuff?

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

craner is pro-reality by nature - all those fabulous essays are fully of the material world - but with a foot in the luka camp via being mates

 

[craner]

lukaism

Be very careful what you wish for.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

carner said i have a 'raw, untutored intellect'

yeah but it's self-consciously raw isn't

I mean you study poetry (for anyone who doesn't know, luka is a genuinely interesting poet)

 

[craner]

carner said i have a 'raw, untutored intellect'

To be fair, I wrote this in an academic reference for you, when I was trying to make a virtue of the fact you had no A-Levels. And then you got offended by it!

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Be very careful what you wish for

we have bigger problems than nascent lukaism

and his heart is in the right place. I'd take lukaism 1000x over QAnon etc.

 

[craner]

we have bigger problems than nascent lukaism

and his heart is in the right place. I'd take lukaism 1000x over QAnon etc.

Fair point.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

I can’t remember people or numbers or facts.

that's not terribly important, unless you want to have deep knowledge of a topic. otherwise you can just look them up.

but it is important to "know things" in a general way, to separate that signal from all that noise, tether it to reality